How To Snort The New Formula Opana Er (Page 9)
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I became a pain patient after I fell off a horse in March of last year and sustained spinal injuries which are still VERY painful. Opana ER was the first thing doctors gave me that helped at all and now that they have changed the formula I'm in a lot more pain. I want to break down the formula so I can insufflate it, as I am told I may get more pain relief and increase bioavailability of the drug. The new formula hardly offers the same pain relief, Please help me!

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I have to add a little humour here. Blue Eyes you must have strong teeth! Vk knows I'm playing and just trying to lighten the mood. Were all here for a reason and that is to share concerns, feelings etc. Here's a good one, doc put me on lyrica, found myself texting on the tv remote! My wife said I was so mean and that got me sad cause when I was trucking my handle was " layer back one " lyrics is over for me and anyone wants 58 150 mg You can have em!
Bob

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Post #466
Dear BlueEyez,

You said some things that really resonated with me as well. Routines can indeed make one feel trapped, I never used to feel that way though, went to work every day, worked out, did the grocery store shopping but that was when I was "normal", I was very sick but when my my illness determined the course of my life, i.e., forced to leave work, my perception of everything changed, that woman I feel is long gone and irretrievable. It's the depression, I don't know if anyone else can relate to this, but I hate staying in bed, like you said the sun is shining and people are walking their dogs, living their lives and it's confusing because I get very anxious when it's time to go to sleep, I don't want the day to end, but then I do it over and over again. I will tell you, a trick I use, is I commit to something, invite a couple for dinner, I have close enough friends, lucky for me, that after chemo, I tell them after a few days, barring really bad side effects, to drag me to lunch and then it forces me to shower and put myself together, and that alone shifts my mindset to the positive a bit and once I'm out, I feel normal, no one else can see my pain or illness and it's exciting that I appear to be normal even if it's just for an hour. I'm definitely struggling more now but I was able to go for a drive with my husband and I noticed the distraction was good for me, I didn't even think about the pain medication and it was right in my purse. The more I get back into some semblance of a life, I find, especially entertaining (which makes me an enigma I know), that's my fun thing that motivates me. I get into the beautiful presentation and what I have come to realize over a long battle w/illness is that when the roller coaster is up and I just use my medication as prescribed, especially the B/T, I don't need nearly as much so I know it's the mind/body connection. When the roller coaster goes down, and for me right now upside down too, it's really easy to talk about just getting up than doing it. I so know what you are going through and you sound like me, you are very hard on yourself. We are fallible, that's what makes us human. It's easy to give advice, hard to take it and even harder to make it translate into action. I really hope you have someone you can be honest with, again even if just the depression, to get you started, you'll find it will be easier to not misuse your medications. May I ask what you take? I don't get any euphoric feelings that I hear others speak of, I used to and I think that is what's depressing that there's nothing to really even use as a crutch when I really need to be somewhere or do something. I know it calms my anxiety immensely so there's something going on that helps but not an exaggerated feeling of well being as I've heard others describe their meds. Okay so what actually caught my attention that I got off track from is the double-edge sword effect which I am intimately familiar with, overdoing it and going back to jail, don't pass go or collect $200, but stuck back in the bed trying to undo the very thing you hate and I do it over and over again. I do believe I get it now, the insanity will stop, I have learned to say a polite no, something women often have a hard time doing, we are the nurturers and caregivers and it's hard to be on the other side, at least for me. Susan, I hope you can try just the littlest thing, set your alarm and force yourself to shower, a little at a time, you just might accidentally find your life again as I have in the past and believe I will again. It's time for me to start back to walking the talk, pun intended, lol! Wishing you happier times.

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Hi Vk
Trying to stay up cause made it to Fri. night. Had my 3 month visit to my doc and we ended up talking of this forum. He's really cool. Told me of a site called Opia something wish I could remember. He said people list names and phone nubers of people selling, telling how to crush or iv. The DA told him he goes on now and then but can't do anything due to freedom of speech.Doc added lyrica to my regimate but 60.00 copay! May stop taking it. Hope you had a had a good moms day!

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Brynn, I think you are spot on about the importance of having a routine; it's a double-edged sword, though, when routines feel like trappings. You're also very astute when pointing out that nobody can do this For me without my desire and initiation to getting better. I hate it that it's so much easier to do nothing. I Know the sun is shining out there, and I Can be part of my own life again--even enjoy it and more of those in it. Thank you very much for your reply. May your own recovery be swift, successful, and not too draining. Pushing ones' self is a great quality provided we know when it's balanced with knowing when to slow down. Just my 2 cents. Thank you, again. Be well.

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TO...BLUE EYES...POST #460...

Hello to you, from me (Vktoria) and many of us on here. I want to say you are someone very special. You are not a bad person, You have had and are having MANY thoughts and feelings and even "doings" as many of us have and still are having to go through. You see, by making the decision to even keep reading the posts, have said so much about yourself. you are stuck in a viscious triangle that pain, accidents, and many others are experiencing as well. We all would like the surgery that will heal the pain, so we can live a "normal" day to day without restrictions. I'm not going to go into why we take the pills, or even why we end up taking more than we need or even end up taking pills we dont need, "Just to numb the mind along with the body."

I am very proud of you..and I know that your wanting to make a change, and your on the correct path my friend. Its not going to be easy, but as every day that goes by, it will get to a point even if it is hard, extremely hard to resist going back to your own ways....You will begin talking yourself out of it..Because you now know the strength that you may not have known you had, to fight this epidemic of "struggling" inside your mind and body...

Keep it up, and there may be times you fail, but never keep trying...Once you get past the "withdrawl states" your body will begin to feel again, your mind will begin to think differently, and you will begin waking up every day with a different outlook..And surprisengly, pain pills can cause more pain...When your body realizes that your needing more, it will begin to hurt....It will begin to make you more depressed....You will start to panic at times thinking you may not have enough, and those things alone are "CONSUMING." And scary...

I dont like to say quit cold turkey, because medically knowing it can cause severe withdrawals or even death in some matters. But if you can find the strength to make yourself take One when you begin feeling yucky, its the way to do it and not go into nasty withdrawls..

I have to go do something, but I will be back and talk as much as you wish too...I am VERY proud of you...Even if you have made some back steps, the point that you have written and wanting to make this change...SAYS SO MUCH...DONT GIVE UP..YOU DESERVE A HAPPY LIFE...DONT LET ANYONE OR ANYTHING TRY TO CHANGE THAT OUTLOOK OK..

ILL BE BACK SOON...HELLO EVERYONE, HOW ARE YOU DOING. Have a great weekend...you all deserve praise and a BIG HUG....() () ()

Vktoria..

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Post #460
You are very brave, I am not using my meds in this manner but I have to admit, since my recent 3 week stint in the hospital I have lapsed back into that never get out of bed depression that I fought so hard. Yes I'm in pain, they still have drains in, my incisions hurt but I have ALWAYS been able to push myself. I have someone I know that went down that road with the Oxycontin and it didn't end well, it in fact is the one med I will not take, dying or not, I'm scared I will like it b/c you have got it right. I will not proof this either and I think I am contradicting myself but I too am taking doses not for pain necessarily, at least physical, I'm not toughing it out, the pain pills do help the depression enough for me to fake it for my family and this kind of depression is unbearable and no antidepressant is touching it. I'm ashamed and embarrassed but I pull myself together at dinner time, just before my husband and son get home from work and some days when I just can't pull it together, say it was a really bad day. They are really bad days so why don't I go lay on the couch where they are rather than isolate myself? I don't know how to shake this. Don't be so hard on yourself but please don't let these pills ruin your life, they will take so much away from you. Before my surgery, I told my husband to force me to take a walk a few days a week and worked up to daily and it was slow at first but I got stronger and grew to look forward to the talking and the ROUTINE, we all need routines, something to get up for. Do you have anyone whom you can even just say I'm blue, the pain is bad and try the physical activity and see if you can step your use down b/c you just want to be happy and productive, probably you just want to be not sad, happy is something else and not everyone is happy all of the time but content would be a great place for you. I sure hope so, that way if you feel to ashamed (which you shouldn't but who am I to say anything) to tell about the addictive behavior. Please keep us all posted and you can post anything you want at anytime, we can get you through but you have to help yourself. Sending you hugs. Hang in there.

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Post #461
Dear Susan,
I didn't read all of the specifics, forgive me but I just saw you are having a bad pain day and don't want to have to go through another surgery and I can say I do know how you feel. We know being in the hospital is awful, I just did a 3 week stint, my white blood count was non-existent, I was in tremendous pain, unbearable a true 10 but the acute, they have just cut me open, they have inserted chest tubes (OMG hurt so bad I stopped breathing), then the kicker pancreatitis. I prayed to die, I am terminal but I had to fight b/c my son graduates from medical school this year, so far I can say I'm home and there is no place like home! Oh did I mention that the on call A**hole of a doctor, gave me 15 mg of oral morphine down from the 10 mg IV q 3 hours plus oral morphine doses as needed, 2 days after being cut open and having chest tubes inserted. I was tethered to my bed and I am terminal, he was a cruel person, he doesn't deserve the title of doctor and G-D forgive me but I hope he gets a kidney stone and he can only have a tic tac, b/c that's basically what he did to me. Not to mention he through me into full w/d and my family fought for me and it still took 4 days to get my IV pain meds back and now after experiencing that, I am so scared it could happen again. These doctors hospitals hire can be terrible, I had the worst of the worst b/c they have no relationship to you, they are doing shift work and how he left me writhing like that is unforgivable so I too need more surgery and I am torn. I could have 2 years w/any luck and this surgery but I just lived through my worst nightmare so how do I say, sure one more time...lol! If I don't laugh then I won't stop crying. Sending you so many healing hugs and thoughts. Anyone with any experience, how would you handle this for the future, this doctor needs to understand what he did and how he forever altered my perception and fear of hospitals.

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SUSAN...

Hello and welcome to the board here..Most of us on here have been staying pretty positive and working with one another. We are here for listening, giving advice is wanted, to relate and share, and most of all, TO NOT JUDGE, cuz we all have and or are going through difficult times in many situations. Sometimes its nice to just have an Unknown but close aquantance to confide or give advice too, it just adds endorphins, good feelings, and possibly better outlooks at things..;)

Im sorry to hear you have been in a lot of pain the last few days, it definately puts a damper on things sometimes. I try to figure out things I can do when I am a bit down physically. I will have some days that I find myself resting more than normal and I will get my laptop or Ipad and be productive on it. Study, research possiblitites fir my future, anything that I enjoy...NO NEWS...ITS THE MOST DEPRESSING MEDIA ON THE WWW...(World Wide Web)......or Broadcasting systems available...lol

It will get better, bad days do come and go and I am not gonna lye or try to make it sound better than it is, cuz those days......SUCK...LOL but you sound like you have good spirits even after or during some of the days buy the way you sound when I read your posts..;) thats awesome..;)

Well keep posting so we know how your doung and what your days have been up to ok..

Vktoria..;))

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Brien,
It was the yellow, plastic ones that didn't work for me.
They don't work. They upset my stomach and they're expensive.

I do have good news though. My pharmacist special ordered me the generic Opana ER. Happy to say, they work just like they used to. I sure hope the FDA doesn't pull them again. So ridiculous. I'll be so upset because morphine does nothing for my pain. Isn't that weird? You'd thing morphine - the oldest opiate known to man would work great.

My pain has been really bad the past 4-5 days.
I can really tell that the generic Opana ER is working because I can feel when it wears off.
I'm going to have to go see the surgeon again, but I am so afraid to have another surgery. It's so discouraging to go through all of that: the surgery itself, no driving for a month or more, the added pain of healing just to find it didn't work.

I wish I had joined this group under a different title...lol.
With all this government overreach, this is how Big Brother will know me.

I'm really not paranoid....lol.

Susan

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I've started, edited, deleted this post a kajillion times. Why is this so difficult? I started reading this thread last week to learn how to increase the efficacy of my Opana rx without asking my pm dr. to increase the dosage. Why? Honestly, to get high. Why? Because I have been taking opiates for almost 4 years for a back injury and spinal surgery. Long story short: I've been taking Opana 20 er, 10 ir, neurontin 150 daily for approx 2 years. Physically, I am doing very well. Surgery in 2010 was a success. The meds work well for me, and I should be a happy camper, right? Except I chew the er's, take the ir's when I don't really Need them, and rarely get out of bed (literally) except to use the bathroom since before surgery.

I have a problem, yathink?! I'm ashamed to say i have actually, since reading this thread, dissolved and rectally inserted the new, generic ir's--with the desired effect.

For whatever reason (probably because I'm in bed all day) I continued to read through this thread. I'd like to give a big shout out to VKTORIA and the core group of posters. You should know that your words, non-judgmental attitude, and virtual extended hands have affected and moved me. This thread taught me how to "plug" and convinced me NOT to. It's been an interesting week in my house!

Obviously I have an addictive personality and chronic depression (for which I take...you guessed it...more pills!). I have things I can and should do every day. My life is actually probably enviable--from the outside, looking in.

I'm not going to proof this because I will end up deleting or editing what probably comes across as a simpering, whiney, woe-is-me post. That's not my intent.

I really just want to thank you guys and gals and let you know your thoughts and words made a big difference in a stranger's life today.

Time for me to work on motivation to get up and get out...before genuine atrophy sets in.

As my mom is fond of saying, there's a special place in Heaven for people like you! Enjoy a pain-tolerable day :-)

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Lmao that's because OC is 80 bioavailability orally..so no need to snort them...that's why you have no desire..you're kidding yourself if you don't think you're are just as much an addict as you were snorting the opana

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REPLY TO 456..:)

HI THERE BRYAN..:) Thank you my friend, and I am glad things are looking up for you, thats just plane SWEEET..:) please keep and us in sinc with how your doing ok, I wonder how you are and if things are moving forward for you?

I will tell you something that just recently happened to me. the dude that does our yard ran over a nest of baby white-tail rabbits, and sadly eliminated one baby and the mother abanded the nest of the other two baby rabbits. I left them in the nest which was very hard for the first night to see if the mommy would come back and she didnt, so i know am a mother of two very itty bitty baby rabbits that i am nursing with a tiny baby bottle feeding them kittens milk. I am going to start a blog and post pictures and videos of them as they grow if you are interested or anyone is interested in their life at Vktoria's crib? lol They seem to be feeding pretty well today, "THUMPER" the oldest one, his eyes opened today and he sure loves it when he sees me, he only wants me to hold him and rub his ears, weird huh/? And Lola, the female is still closed eyed but should open tomorrow or the next. They are so adorable Bryyan and oddly bring me much enjoyment and smiles. I realize that there is a chance that domestic rabbits may not make it in care of a human, but I am going to give it my best, never not try right? :) So if anyone wants me to add them to my blog i would like to start, let me know and i will give you the address to see THUMPER and LOLA/...:)

I thoght i would put in some cute happenings I have just had, and share it with my friends on here.. OK, i am going to feed the little critters and call it the night. Sleep tight ya"ll and have a good week ahead of ya..THATS AN ORDER..:)

Vktoria

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REPLY TO POST 453....;)))

Hey hey hey, watch yourself Brien, Mr. hercules, lol...Whatchyou thinkin bout lifting all those tracters fer??? Lol Im sorry you hurt yourself dear, but glad to hear your doing better now though. I ameven happier to hear you interviened the temptation, that is ABSOLUTELY AWESOME!!!!! I know the pain had to be unberable, and I know the pain pills help, but dayum, you resisted taking more than you should have...:)

Acknowledgement is your success my friend, we are doing it, and even if it takes a bit longer than we may want it to, its in progress and you, I, and many of us should be DAMN PROUD HUH???

I hope your hip and back get better soon, keep up the great attitude, work, and postings..:) Also know that we all have bad days too, but keep our mids busy so we dont think negative and back track..:) were all moving forward...AND/OR wanting too....:)

vktoria..:)

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Post #420 You are so sweet, keep praying, it's doing me some good! I love your attitude,
Sending you hugs <3.

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Hi Brien, I look forward to your post soon, have a great day...;)))

Everyone have a good day ok..

Vktoria...

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I posted, but it said it had to be reviewed... Hopefully, it will be released soon...if not, I will resend tomorrow.
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Hi Vktoria...Happy Happy Mother's Day!!! I bet your a great momma! Hope you are doing well... I recently lifted something too heavy, like a dumbass, and pulled a muscle in my right hip/back area! I sort of forgot how really severe pain was until now. Guess that is a good thing! Anyway, it is slowly getting better, and I should be back to status quo in a few more days! I sort of understand how someone would abuse meds now, cause I hurt so bad that I would have done anything if my reasonable self hadn't intervened!!! Was a very frightening experience!
To Brooklyn: not sure if you have extreme pain or want to get high, but I understand both things! Sometimes the pain is too much to handle and the meds don't feel like their working...you want the pain to stop, and will try anything! Also, to be honest, opiates can feel really good...damn good! But, it is a really bad idea to abuse them, especially Opana, as it can have the worst withdrawal symptoms of all the meds! Even taking them as prescribed, one will get tolerant to them! I suggest you do as Vktoria says, and talk to your doctor about taking a different med...there are many to choose from, and everyone reacts differently to them! Also, a 10mg ER dose is not that strong for chronic pain, so maybe an increased dosage would help or possibly just a different medication altogether. Please don't abuse, and god bless you!!!

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To BROOKLYN, BOB, AND OPAINA...;)

Brooklyn, I am sorry your not having the correct pain control that you need, it seems to be a huge problem with so many people suffering chronic pain..With abusing going on, its hard for us, the true chronic pain patients to get the correct care and medicine we may need because medical staff are on such a high alert bybthe DEA to catch any abusers and prescribers to abusers. So this is making the good pain clinics that need to provide correct care to us, and they cant because of so many new restrictions that are passed on an every day basis it seems.

Most any clinic down here in south Florida WILL NOT write any prescriptions for "OXYCODONE" "Oxycontin" and even mood educer medicines like valumes ..I dont remember the names but I do remember the signs.. But this is because not to help the patients who need good pain control, but because it is being abused, or not used as prescribed by their doctors...My question is, should they just take all alchohol off the shelves as well, because God knows it is being abused by millions of people all around thenworld every day, and thats not even a prescription is it? There will be abusers everyday, all day, and they will get what they want until they decide they want a change. The DEA isnt going to stop them, nor any pharmecutical company with their rediculous, non-affective, new pill methods....They need to stick to what helps people and if abusers get caught, then give them help, dont punish them...putting people in jail and finning them tuns of money isnt going to help any of us...we still have to pay for them to go to jail, eat three meals a day, make their addictive life even worse by detoxing in jail, being in more pain in jail, and when their released, its all they can think of most of the time when they get out, to get their fix...Their has to be help for the abusers, not punishment...thats just how I feel...

Brooklyn, if your feeling worse, tell your doctor that the medicine your on is not effective enough fornthe pain you may be experiencing. Dont ask him for stronger medicine because that will pop a red flag, but instead say I have tried the new Opana and in all honesty Doctor, I am feeling no relief from these Opanas, are there any other alternatives, maybe this will bring up a few conversations to better your life and style, and get you on a better path of pain management? If he cant do much for you, then begin searching for another doctor until you find one that your comfortable with..BUT...BUT...BUT...I emphasize on this dear, DO NOT GET ANY OTHER PRESCRIPTIONS FROM THE OTHER DOCTORS YOU VISIT UNTIL YOU ARE TOTALLY DISMISSED FROM YOUR ORIGINAL DOCOTR, THE DEA WILL CATCH IT AND SAY YOUR DOCTOR SHOPPING...so make sure when you find a good doctor, to only get your prescription from him/her, one doctor...to take care of you ok....I cant emphasize that enough to you dear...

Hello Bob....how are you doing my friend? Im doing great but my medicine pump just started beeping at me tonight, I thought I was going Krazy hearing noises but...lol, its my pump telling me I am low on medicine, I missed my doc appointment on Monday, so with such little CC's of medicine im on, they said I will be ok till monday...lol weird, im beeping, I better not go into an airport or something....lmao....joke....Glad to hear ya on here, stay in touch my friend...;) xoxo

OPAINA...Havent ever heard from you, we all have been reposting since your first post, you doing better? You sound better in your recent post...glad to have you back...;)

Have a great MOTHERS DAY MOMMS, and a great sunday everyone..;)

Vktoria...;)

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Microwave, then freeze and call you pain mgmt. Dr. and see what he has to say.

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Brooklyn...if a baby asprin is the same, then just take more asprin...you just want to "feel" something, and that's not gonna happen.

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