How To Snort The New Formula Opana Er (Page 7)

I became a pain patient after I fell off a horse in March of last year and sustained spinal injuries which are still VERY painful. Opana ER was the first thing doctors gave me that helped at all and now that they have changed the formula I'm in a lot more pain. I want to break down the formula so I can insufflate it, as I am told I may get more pain relief and increase bioavailability of the drug. The new formula hardly offers the same pain relief, Please help me!

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U guys, for pain relief, please look into electro medicing. Google myopulse, and acuscope, they are machines at about $5,000 to 10,000 dollars a piece, and people have healed themselves of chronic pain and injuries without drugs. My mom is one of them. Google and do your research, its worth looking into. Also, these machines are used for horses aswell.

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UH Donnie tweeker, reason for increased heroin use is the super low price. If youve brain cells left learn the facts. You really need not even attempt to make a point here. Go back to your coloring book.

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there is alot of ppl in very bad pain. when they snort them it its them harder and gives more pain release

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I have 1 titainium waiting on the other I work to support my family in pain 24/7. Your right at 6 40mg . I was in and out all day. But I wasn't distracted by the pain in my neck and bicept and forearm and the 4-5 musle knots . (trigger points) not to metion my two middle fingers on my right side goes numb 5 times. Every hour..... I know I was at my max dose of opana . But a pain patient should still get the medicine that works by custom pharmacists. It took a long time to get the right medicine. Since I have stoped opana I have been experienceing the above symtoms. And after you are in that position for a while it becomes very very hard to see the silver lining . If you feel me ...... Can I get a AMEN.......lol.... Will probably end up detoxing to get down to a manageable toloraces. Or give into the butcher that did my first discectomy. And I feel he should have replaced both discs .....concidering the damage he found.... But he would rather get paid for two suguries than one.... So. I think a lot of pain patients are created due to greedy surgeons..... Good luck to all ...... Peace.

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Lynne, I've been switched so many times hard to count. Entered PM after my family practice Dr. said I need more help.. He started me on low doses of percocet. First PM put me on oxycodone and methadone. 30mg total of oxy5ir and 10mg metadone twice a day. Hated methadone. Switched from methadone to morphine. No good there either. Then to oxy and Opana. Now 180 5mg and 60 40 mg. Opana. This was all over about a year. Changed PM Dr, then put on can you believe one stinkin 5mg oxy and 160 mg Opana per day. Stayed there about a year. Pain not controlled. Back to first PM Dr. starte
d at 240 5mg oxy a month but put me on 60 30mg. Opana a month. My body is beat up from neck to base of spine. I wish I received half of what some people get for a few bulging discs they borrowed a mri from a friend to get the meds. There is no reasoning with these Drs. whatsoever. It's a crap shoot on what a patient might get. Still waiting for semi controlled relief but none yet. I had to take a driving test, mental problem solving, and coordination test while medicated. Scored highest in Wa. State, should say something on lack of medication!

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Please, please tell me what you've been doing. I have 30 tumors on my spine and a 6 cm one on my kidney, one my my thyroid, and one in my brain. Since they have changed the Opana, I have been desperate to find a way to relieve my pain to keep myself from shooting myself in the head. I don't care how humiliating it is, I just need help, please.

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I think if all possible talk to your Dr. I think you should be taking oxycodone or something similar along with Opana. Opana to me at least is not much of a pain reliever. Again, just my opinion. Ever been put on Methadone? Reading the posts people have advice on different ways to take Opana. I have to retract a statement I made on people who snort or whatever. Pretty self righteous statement after I looked at it. Guess whatever helps people is what really matters. I wouldn't feel humiliated if I were you. Just got to change my old fashioned thoughts.

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break it up. put it in a {edited for safey reasons} ready to snort

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What a nice response! Thanks and good timing too, spent some more time in my least favorite place, the hospital, the oncology unit where you would believe the nurses would be the most incredibly but they are not, don't get me wrong, there are always gems anywhere you go but to me, on this floor in particular where all of the patients are scared they won't go home this time, it's a tough crowd. I especially appreciate your commenting that I may be too hard on myself b/c I've heard it before, I just wanted to be that super brave I don't need meds to do this, but truth is, I did and still do and I don't know why but I do feel shame. It's too hard to do without the help and the nurses job is to care for us, not judge and hurt us and their nasty under the breath comments don't help either. Yes, I am starting to see my depression is also related to my pain also b/c when I'm cooped up with nothing to think about but scary thoughts, it hits me hard. I know I'm headed towards tough times and I'm starting to let the fear get the best of me. I think I want to save so many of these "wet behind the ears" folds but they may have to learn the hard way. Just remember, if your doctor requires cash, writes for basically anything you could possibly need or use, doesn't examine you, doesn't make eye contact and you feel so lucky b/c every month you can't wait until day 30 or whatever it is that your doctor prefers, your are already in trouble and how will you ever get anyone to write let alone force a nurse to administer what you truly need to control your pain without them knowing you have destroyed your own tolerance. They also (and I can't say I blame them) are far more sympathetic and responsive to the opiate-naive patient b/c they don't come in with any stigma, right or wrong, if you take C II meds, you are lableled a seeker/abuser and you are no longer their fair-haired oncology patient. It sucks but it's true and that is very sad in its own right. Thanks again and sorry for the rambling, just had to get that out and please, share your best and worse inpatient experience and comments as they relate to pain relief, I'm curious at how many of you get any of the same type of behavior. Thanks and best of luck to you all.

I called for a pain shot, there was a 4, that's FOUR hour delay in getting any morphine or dilaudid to the floor and I was literally writhing in pain. I was begging and I sounded like an animal, I've never been like that, my husband just lost it, and I felt terrible but I felt like I was being stabbed in the spine with a branch, it was horrible and the first 1 hour delay I was stressed, let's just say when the nurse came in to tear me apart, I literally vomited kind of on her from the pain and then passed out. Miracle, when I came to with a cut and knot on my forehead, 1-2 minutes later, a lovely nurse came it immediately with a dilaudid syringe to push through my PICC line. Of course at this point I can't stop trembling, I do believe I hit an 11 on that pain scale, I have never felt pain that intense for that long, they claimed they had no IV narcotics for 4 hours when I should have already had multiple shots and they did have the meds the whole time. My doctor was called since I lost consciousness, the head does bleed A LOT,
so my room looked like a crime scene and I was trembling and couldn't stop. I moaned and begged for help and the nurses were falling over themselves to act caring but what they didn't know (and neither did I) was that after trying everything he knew to help me and also believed they didn't have pain meds, he got up to see what he could do to help and heard me yell and ran back and set up his Ipad to record, brilliant and tried so hard to comfort me but the pain that built for over 4 hours was so out of control and as we found out just as act of cruelty by the nursing, as my husband has on his video of the nurse saying "it's hard to tell whose seekin' sometimes and who's hurtin', suppose this one was a hurtin' poor gal". Four stitches and a private viewing for my Oncologist and his private viewing all the way up the chain may have finally pointed out the hell pain patients go through and this was truly so frightening, the cruelty it takes to watch someone go through this as some sort of test, disregarding my orders and refusing my husband's instructions to contact my doctor every 15 minutes. I have told them about these issues for so long and they didn't believe it or let's say thought I was being dramatic and the irony is the nurses blame it on the patients being on their meds and being all crazy on them. If you are in pain with a terminal illness and you've been under-medicated in patient for so long, you are lucid, maybe groggy but more lucid than I think they realize. You could really tell that the higher the viewing of our "orderal" went (my husband never let them touch or take the Ipad out of his hands until he uploaded the video and made it safe) the more serious it was getting, I was wrong, management does not like this sort of thing, I'd like to believe it's because they care but I'm afraid it's more about the liability. I hope I'm wrong but all I know is the head nurse, gone in a flash. If you could have seen the nurses faces when they lied about what happened to me (I was there!), my husband (also there!), my doctor, the nurse manager, charge nurse,and the Chief Nursing Officer (apparently a big deal in hospitals) when my husband asked them if they didn't have anything to add before he played the footage. They looked like I did before the shot, lol! They were frozen and I think praying it was a hoax but the joke was on them and I was immediately moved, I did require 4 stitches and my nerves were shot. It was like I was in protective custody, very weird, every nurse was nicer than the last but it was driven by fear, didn't feel sincere except for one that is always professional and great. My pain meds were always either 15 min. early or on time around the clock. I know this was a lot to read but when I do warn people about being responsible with their meds, that they are still young and unfortunately cancer doesn't care if you are young, middle-aged, a senior, wealthy or poor, it's pretty much an equal opportunity operator and I really don't wish for ANYONE to be in terrible pain ever but I think you can lose sight of what that is very fast. Why feel any pain if you don't have to? We really have become the quick fix, actually quick everything country, we want everything done right away and our tolerance to patience as a society is suffering and as long as you will continue to show up and pay your PM doctor, he will continue to write if he is what some call a "liberal scripter". I personally want my medical professional telling me what they think is best and working from there and would run from liberal scripters because there is no undoing the damage they have already done to your brain and pain receptors, you will always feel pain more intensely if you do not take control yourself. I wouldn't wish what I went through that night on my worst enemy and that's where I'm supposed to keep getting care there? I haven't even thought that one out.

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Ok, that was some very descriptive writing both emotions and some of the same issues people face with so called proffesionals. I don't know what state you are in but if in Oregon or Washington I can give PM Drs. names. Gonna be straight forward here and maybe saying something. I should not but pot sounds like what you need. Bad thing if PM tests you that's it. They will drop you. You don't need to smoke it you can make tea, brownies,etc... Here you can pay 185.00 for a medical card. You are allowed 17 plants. Ca. goes by square footage of a room. States honor it but Feds don't. You would have to be majorally dealing for geds to come. Just a thought, cancer patients, and many others benefit.

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ur a dumb ass, they arent tlkn bout the old ones " know it all" the new ones you cant do like that...Know wht ur tlkn bout b4 u get on here and make urself look STUIPID...
To do the new ones you cut them {edited for safety reasons} ...it will still b n lil' chunks because you cant get it fine like powder but u can still snort it...make sure 2 keep flushing ur nose with water or u wont feel it as strong, but i PROMISE u if u do it just like i said and dont let it burn u WILL feel it almost just as good as u did b4

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Sorry guys, i forgot 2 tell u 2 take the coating off by {edited for safety reasons}... Also, i just tried everything that ppl here had suggested, EXCEPT, the rectal s*** that i think is completely DISCUSTING, especially the part of her catching her s*** in a bowl and doing it all over again...That is definately a junkie, or just a completely disturbed individual 2 have ever even thought of something like that, but anyway, like i said i tried ALMOST everything just a min ago and still dont feel it as good as i do when i cook them, even tho i said i just went outside and {edited for safety reasons} and right now i am having trouble breathing thru my nose, LOL and i am NOT feeling it as well as when it {edited for safety reasons} ...It is time consuming but worth it....

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Hi, I don't want to sound judgemental or anything, I'm actually speaking directly to your situation in that when you are in terrible pain and you NEED the medication to work and your tolerance is so high now that even the doctor that put you up to this dose is backing off you have a problem. YOU being the key word, you didn't ask to have these problems and I'll say it over and over again for anyone to hear and listen and act on it, doctors in general do a terrible job in educating their patients on pain management regimen, what the meds will do and where your doses start and how high might they go, etc. I don't mean go in and ask "red flag" questions (which infuriates me b/c you should just be able to ask your doctor ANYTHING w/o the fear of being dropped or retaliated against. These docs know how much power they hold (there are ALWAYS exceptions) and often times they don't really think to tell you you will max out your dosing w/i a set amount of time and let you decide if you are willing to lose your tolerance entirely b/c from the meds and doses you are taking, you are so tolerant that they really have no where else to go w/o killing you and that they care about. You need to see if you can take a medication vacation and from my understanding that can be done via Suboxone or Subutex (sp?), I have only read about them but they have pain relieving properties in them but they help people very much in stopping narcotics all together is that's your goal, or possible to lower your tolerance and if you ever do something like this, protect your tolerance like it's a precious gem b/c no one else will do it for you, they don't have to live with the consequences, but you do. Unfortunately, it will take months for you to really lower your tolerance and no matter what they tell you, if you go back to the same old habits, it will shoot up w/i a week and that would be truly sad. You helped get yourself here but we all understand b/c no one wants to live in pain if they don't have to and all you have to do is take a few pills and feel great, what's the harm right? Now you see and feel first hand (no pun intended, lol) the harm. Be prepared to take responsibility for your tolerance and respectfully tell your doctor that you need his help and lay out your needs and I think if you are polite (don't accuse him of mismanaging you b/c he will cut you immediately) and express the fear of having pain that is intractable how can you manage that all the while keeping your tolerance at a safe level. They do make a lot of money for these pharmaceutical companies, you can Google your doc and in many states, I know they do in mine, must list their affiliations with these companies and what exactly they are paid. I found my doctor made $100,000 in 2011 speaking for Exalgo, a very expensive extended-release Dilaudid. For 60 pills, my cost (no insurance to boast about, bare bones) would have been close to $1200. I chose to take the short acting generic and yes it's every 4-6 hours but my entire months pills are only $5 so yes I will make that sacrifice to save that money, who wouldn't? I just don't get it, even with insurance, as much as I hate them also, it's still way more than the ER version and again if you take every 4 hours, than you are only, at most adding 4 doses, for $1195, I know I'm doing it! We as patients need to recognize that doctors are not making the money they used to, many do not make enough period due to the massive regulation and cuts in payments, and they are mostly good but they need to earn a living and these meds keep people coming back. It's sad that we are losing our brilliant-minded physicians over money. My nephew just graduated medical school, he's over $250K in debt and works over 80 hours per week and he's afraid he made a mistake b/c he has a wife and child and the pay is not enough for him to pay their expenses and get out of debt, imagine this loan at 6%. I don't think most patients understand what our doctors are up against, they have families, problems and bills just like the rest of us and now I think they have more financial problems than the average person b/c everyone thinks all doctors are rich and that's the farthest thing from the truth. Most doctors choose the field, especially now, for altruistic reasons that many patients don't grasp. They actually work for less than minimum wage when you make the calculation and have zero room for error or they will get sued, I think it's a sad and very wrong situation. I'll step off my soapbox for now, lol! Point of message: BE RESPONSIBLE FOR YOU TOLERANCE AND MEDS VIA RESEARCH, ETC. IT'S YOUR BODY AND YOU SHOULD HAVE A SAY IN WHAT GOES INTO IT (within reason, lol)!

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Hi, Rebel. It just seems that you can't catch a break with your meds. Why do you think he increased your breakthrough meds by so much and then reduced your long-acting when you are still in pain? Also, if you are allowed, I would take 90 of the 10 mg percocets and just score them if he's okay with it so you can reduce your Tylenol intake even more. That's a lot of added meds you don't need. I hope you do get some comfort soon. Be well.

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opana er 30mg 3 a day a very very hard to get off of..Bad.Dont mean to scare you but you would need a docter help.worst than methadone,herion,fentynal by far the worst.dont try it alone.Go to docter our you will be calling a ambulance for sure.Lady down the street tried cold turkey and she is tough but couldnt beat the opanas.good luck

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Thanks "Just tryin 2 help". I just did a pana 40 the way u said too.. I was def a little iffy about sniffing pieces instead of powder but it for sure hit me better and almost immediately after doing it.. I chopped them into the tiniest pieces possible and then kept flushing my nose like you said.. For anyone considering this method I suggest to give it a try for yourself.. Yea its a bit of a process but I got it all done in about 15 minutes and that's everything from washing the coating off to chopping it up to cooking it to freezing it to my nose.. I def expected it to be at least a half hour process. But thanks again.. just tryin 2 help def helped me today! Feelin right! :)

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I have been on pretty much every pain med possible, and it has always been about relieving the pain for me, but it has always had an evil side to wanting to see if I could also find a high off of each one at one point in my life, but a different high i think than others on here..A high to just relieve the pain but also to feel good for once...I thinkn we all on here are just sick of feeling the pain and want to feel good, like we use to, invincable, and able to do what we use to with no problem..
i had to recognize it was time to figure out a way that pills were not the solution, they were only a qucik 4-6 hour relief..So I searched and searched and found myself a good doctor, told them the truth, whcih I believe was the hardest thing I have ever had to do, was admit I was hooked on pain pills...Not so much emotionally, whihch I was for the reasoning I said above, but my body sure was, it let me know when that last dose was wearing off, I could definately feel it, and dammit, my body wouldnt let me not take another pill without feeling s***tier than I ever have before the accident and bad pain..So here is where I stand today, after amlong road of finding, "That Doctor who didnt want to just write that RX"....

I found a way to relieve the pain and a way to get off of pain medicine and not have to make that crazy drive to the Paharmacy's every month, and you all know what I am talking about...I did a trial version of a medicine pump, and it worked so good for me, and I am scheduled to have surgery Tuesday...This way, I am relieved of pain immidiately, I dont have any temptation with pills because it is automatically dispenced into my spinal area with the medicine pump, I have no control over it except for the two times I can administer extra a day IF i need to, and I am not throwing pills down my throat nor tempted to snort them either. i am not putting anyone down in this thread for what they are doing, I have been there and I feel for everyone, and I do not Judge...I am just suggesting another route that maybe you might want to look into, so that you can have excellent pain relief, and not have to worry about pain pills...I know the security of having that "high"
Is kind of scary to think of getting rid of, but I got to the point at the age of 38 that I said, enough is enough...It was overwhelming my life over a damn pill, and if I can help anyone THINK of something different and it relieve their pain, then maybe I could help one or two?? like I said, I am not trying to "Counsil or fix" just trying to give advice, s***, thats what this board is for...I wish everyone pain relief, and a life that doesnt revolve around pills...GOOD luck ......;)

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please tell me what to do,,, i am a 30 yo female that is perm. disability for pain and psyche reasons and am really hating whats going on with these things, i dont understand why these chemist are trying to do , anyways lets get to the point... i dont care at this point, anthing that can help right now is what i need to know, so i get the gist of what u r saying but exactly how do u mean, just cut n half with my pill splitter and insert , or is there more to it ? please help... maebell.

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I have been going to pain management clinic since October 2011. I have had neck disc surgery, and several nerve releases and shoulder surgeries prior to the clinic. I have degenerative disc issues and now the last MRI showed more spinal disc issues. The pain clinic put me on Opana ER 5 immediately telling me that I would need about two weeks for me to take this twice a day for my body to get used to it to get quality pain relief. I went to have it filled at the pharmacy and because I have used the same pharmacy and ask questions, they flat out told me that I was going to have problems with it, and that they would have me on stronger doses very fast. I have had nothing but bad problems. I can not eat with this medication. I am constantly sick to my stomach, waves of it. In ten short months have gone from Opana 5mg ER to 30mg. I do not sleep well, get headaches when I take this in the morning before work and have lost 30lbs. I am about 102 lbs now. The doctor continues to tell me that my body has to adjust to the medication and that the increases are because my disc issues are getting worse. However, the pain medication is not working! I keep a journal of the pain. I am miserable and the doctor is not willing to change the meds to something else. He has me on flexeril for muscle spasms, neurontin for the nerve pain and I think this drug Opana is crap. I found an old bottle of percocet that I guess I forgot about in the basement bathroom. There were two pills left in there. I took one and maybe it was just hope, but I swear I had some relief of pain. I know the spelling on here is off and I am just so angry with the pain clinic. Prior to going there I was on three to four percocet a day along with the flexeril for the muscle spasms. It was the 5mg percocet and I didnt always take four a day. I just really want to know if those of you who have taken this drug Opana have an opinion as to if I have given it enough time to work in my system. If so, I am ready to find a new pain management clinic and see what they can do. Opana cant be the only drug that is used in long term pain treatment. So, anybody who has taken this, has it worked and is ten months enough time to have tried it?

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I think ten months is more than enough. Opana is the " buzzword" in PM clinics. Maybe they get a kick back from Endo. I am the same way you are as far as Opana er. Persist with your Dr. to change your extended release med or like me I take Opana plus oxycodone ir. Good luck!

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