How To Snort The New Formula Opana Er (Page 14)

I became a pain patient after I fell off a horse in March of last year and sustained spinal injuries which are still VERY painful. Opana ER was the first thing doctors gave me that helped at all and now that they have changed the formula I'm in a lot more pain. I want to break down the formula so I can insufflate it, as I am told I may get more pain relief and increase bioavailability of the drug. The new formula hardly offers the same pain relief, Please help me!

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after you extract the medicine from the stool and rinse it off are you able to snort it or what?

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There's a fine line between medical user and drug abuser. I agree that there are many people who need these pain meds and I think if they need them, they should be on them, and on ones that work for them. At the same time, at least half of the opiate addicts I have met started as medical users, taking them as prescribed by their doctor.. Anyone can be an addict. I've seen people that have never done drugs or even drank get addicted to pain meds. And whether you are a "medical user" or an addict they are still difficult to get off of (not to mention sometimes dangerous to come off of cold turkey) and there is always possibility of a relapse. Sometimes people don't even realize that they are in fact addicts. It's nothing to be ashamed of. I was an opiate addict for many years. It took a lot to become clean and have a life. I hope that if anyone is caught up in opiates, prescribed or not, that they not be afraid to seek help.

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Honestly, in my opinion and everyone else I know that has ever taken opana, it really only works when you snort it, lol..just be honest. Yes of course you will catch a buzz from any narcotic pain killer, but even if you are NOT doing it to get high and JUST pain relief, snorting it will make it a lot more effective. I have found taking those orally I do not get the same relief as do others. And I swallow any and all other pain killers...

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Ask for Numorphan (made by Dupont I believe) suppositories instead. They go to work really fast. Not sure what dosages are availalble in your state as rules differ from state to state.

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PEOPLE WHO RELAPSE ARE WEAK MINDED PEOPLE, WHO NEED TO GROW A PAIR AND QUIT WHINING ABOUT HOW HARD IT IS TO QUIT. YOU KNEW THAT THEY WERE ADDICTIVE WHEN YOU STARTED TAKING THEM, SO SHUT UP AND DEAL WITH IT!

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Numorphan has oxymorphone in it, which is the same chemical in Opana. It is only available as a suppository or injection... It is made by Endo , which makes Opana.

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The weak minded are the one's that are compelled to use all capitals and shout at people in pain. What's the point in yelling or even taking the time to reply hate posts? Certainly there's other/better things that interest you rather than finding or waiting like a vulture to pounce on posts to use as a method to get out whatever is bioling your water.

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Kisses:
Your just another drug abuser...plain and simple...
I hope the withdrawals, when you stop snorting them, are fun...cause they are going to be bad!!! Hope it is worth getting high over...

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People, please try to be constructive toward Kisses, instead of "hoping" she has a horrid withdrawal. As she may well be an "abuser", she asked a question that deserves some answers that are compassionate, rather than spiteful. Of course medications ought be used as directed always, but there will almost always be those who are at wits end, not getting the relief, or have become so tolerant they require a re-think. If Kisses is in genuine pain after a medication has had a change to its formulation, she at least deserves advice that at least makes her re-think her use which is to the contrary of her method of use. Sure, it's ok to say "please don't do that because...." ; that's a lot better than yelling at her and calling her names. Sometimes it's better to slap a hand rather than hold it; I think it's much more effective to discourage "snorting" or "shooting" etc...,something meant to be swallowed in a constructive way. We don't know that person's complete circumstances and we certainly don't want to instill such hatred toward someone - it can make things even worse for that person. God forbid they wind up killing themselves because they feel so quilty after reading your attacks.. I've always maintained that any medication ought be used as directed not only for the person that isn't getting relief, but for the fact that mis-use caught out by medicos always makes it harder for those in genuine pain to obtain their own relief and adds to an already present stigma that "all people using narcotics are nothing but dirty drug assicts". I hope Kisses tells her treating physicians that the new formulation is simply not doing its job and asks for a review of her current situation so she doesn't have to come here and ask such questions - ones we'd rather avoid for the aforementioned reasons. To Kisses, I can only hope you stop contemplating using your medication incorrectly because it can kill you. Please be honest to yourself and to your doctors about your pain issues. If the meds your getting aren't doing the job, let the professionals know because they can see straight through a pain patient's deception. It's a whole lot better to do things honestly and wind up getting proper care, than mis-using, getting caught and risking complete and utter cessation of all your medications. I wish you the best and say what I said because I care.

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Kisses is not asking a question...she is making a statement, promoting the abuse(snorting) of prescription narcotics. She even throws in a "lol", laughing out loud! Well, I don't find it funny! I wasn't being spiteful, mean or the many other things you felt necessary to call me, but rather matter of fact. I don't think that coddling this person, as you suggest, is the best approach. You are too worried about being politically correct and saying the right things, rather than the content of what needs to be said! Suggesting that I might cause this person to commit suicide is ludicrous and way out of line! Enough said....

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This isn't the forum for Kisses anyway - I should have said that in my post. She does ask "please help me" at the end of her post. That's a question. I do agree the "lol" is way out of line, but maintain she needs help, not yelling - my post was not directed at you specifically, but mostly at the post that's in all caps. That's yelling in cyber talk and inappropriate. Either way, there's no need to get defensive as I wasn't being offensive toward you or anyone in particular. If you took my post as that, I sincerely apologise. Finally, to qoute you (and I agree whole heartedly and also notice that Kisses has not posted any more - perhaps she found the forum for that sort of talk) "enough said"...

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You're better off finding a Mexicano in your local barrio, ask him where the chiva is at, buy 10$ worth of that s***. Much cheaper, much more euphoric, and you don't have to risk getting silicosis if you snort or shoot heroin. It's the same exact high or "pain relief" whatever you junkies wanna call it.

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TO......2Luvlife2....

Hello dear...I apologize I havent replied to you earlier sweety pee, I have been so busy with college and my daughters wedding..I will be more than happy to help you, and DONT allow yourself to get down right now about not keeping up with your friends...You have to concentrate on yourself Nd your body healing hunni, it will take some time and in the end, will be so worth it and if need be, find your-self some new friends..;))

The medicne pump is fantastic, they put the pump in me righit in the lower abdominal area on the right hand side. It is about 2x2 in size and you cannot see it. I am a smaller person, work out, and sometimes if I stretch, you can see a bit of the pump, but nothing to where people would notice it hunni, and who cares if they do right? ;)

The pump lies in the abdominal area and a catheter runs from the pump to the back and spine, where they believe in the spine is the best place to put the catheter, in my case it is in the mid section of the spine to block pain from the mid back all the way down. i use to have just a anesthetic medicine in the pump for pain relief, but now that I have been able to become more active, the medcine isnt working as well so they have put morphine in the pump now which is soo much better for pain relief, like 100% better hunni.. There are options out there now instead of swallowing pills everyday, and this device allows pain relief without the pills and injuring your organs in the long run...with the pain pump, the medicine automatically goes right into the spinal cavity relieving thenpain directly, no medicine having to direct its way throughout the entire body and all your organs...this is a wonderful medicine break through and I suggest this device to every TRUE pain sufferer..

Stay positive with yourself, and your life. If you have to take pills right now, dont be hard on yourself, thats what they are there for, true pain patients and it took me awhile to realize this myself. I know i am not a doctor seeker, and receive my meds from one doctor and thats it..Keep yourself positive, and know that there is relief in the future and just take ONE DAY ATA TIME OK.. You will be ok, and coming off of pills can be done withouut withdrawls as long as it is done correctly and its a slow process, but its ok, its the best way for your body to clme off of a medicine...There are two different types of addictions my friend...A physical addiction and a psychological addiction.. Even if you suffer frommboth, dont be hard on yourself and realize you are looking for help, and you are a GREAT person for looking for a way out and help...GOOD FOR YOU....now, I will be more than happy to continue to talk with you, help you, and always be here for you if you wish to talk on good days and bad days...I will check this forum much more, I promise. I dont want to let any of you down because I am very proud and happy for all of you looking for help and answers, everyone looking ofr answers is the first step towards a wonderful life, and you and many others, CAN DO IT...;)))) just ask me, and I will answer..;)

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TO: All the writers on here...;)))

Hello everyone, and I have not been on here for a bit to reply. I have to say, I am SOO HAPPY to hear the positive posts on this forum about controlling addiction and pain control. I know there are some here that still suffer with pain, meds and how to take them, and ask for help.
This forum before use to be nothing but negative and discussing how to abuse controlled substances, but it has changed for the better, and I give all the credit to you all, for taking control of your lives and realizing that life is fricken awesome, and we all need help here and there. When we are on here, we have to remember to stay positive towards others that ask for help, they may not seem like their doing correctly, but there on here and we have to give all credit for this..
Coming off of any controled substance is a road that we all may not want to travel but we have to..its not the easiest road but if it is done correctly, its not a bad road to travel..I have been on opiates for a long time, but with a good doctor, I am coming off of the meds slowly and it is a process i suggest for everyone..Don't abuse your meds and gather the strength and if your prescribed
to take lets say 3 Opana's a day...try taking two for a week and let your body tolerate the little bit of pain that you may experience, but it shouldn't be extreme..do this for a month...your not taking the drugs away from your body but instead just lowering the dose slowly...so your withdrawals should not be there...it may be hard for someone if they snort them or want more, but this is where your STRENGTH as YOURSELF comes into affect, and KNOW YOU CAN DO IT....this is if you wish to get off of the pills...But if your experiencing pain badly, talk with your physician and find the best solution for your body to do it correctly...Just know, everyone can donit, but the only one that can make yourself better, IS YOU.....I am very proud of everyone on here and wont down posts....you are all allowed your opinion, I just do not condone ABUSE, its only a path to destruction, and everyone knows this....LETS keep up the positivity on here, we are all helpjng one another out...;))

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TO: CHRONIC PAIN Patient...;)))

hello sweety, how are you doing? i am truly sorry to hear your neurostimulator stopped working, and I wish you the best in your operation to correct the default device...I am sure you will feel much better when things are back to normal..

Thank you for asking how I am doing on my pain medicine declination..;) I am doing pretty good actually...My doctor just replaced my pump medicine from a anesthetic to morphine, which is a HUGE difference in my p,ain management. now I am down to two EXALGO a day, and sometimes I only take one, they are 24 hour pain relief pills, so I am having no problem doing this...My body has been doing this slowly and I feel ABSOLUTELY NO WITHDRAWAL AFFECTS WHAT SO EVER.. I am hoping to be off of pills completely for pain relief in about 2-3 months, its slower than I would like, but I have been through some NASTY withdrawals in my past, and that my friend, I never want to experience again, so if this is a slower process than I wish, so be it...;))) I am very happy with my new pIn pump medicine, and getting off of my pills. My doctor also prescribes me break through pain medicine which is called.....ummm...what is it??? oh Norco, 90 pills a month and I still have a close to full bottle, its in my safe actually so I dont even really need them...I am so happy about that too..;))
Well, back to college work my friend, I hope all is well with you, and your feeling better soon...I will check back on the post more frequent now, I apologize for not being on here. I know I have began the positive replies on here, and I wish to keep them up..:) love hearing from you on here...Keep up the positive posts ok..we all need friends, positivity, and help...

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Viktoria, (I hope I spelled this correctly)
Thank you so much for your response to my question. I so appreciate it. I am right now trying to get the constant stress from my life so that I won't have more pain from the stress too. I am happy to hear that you can do the medication this way and not have to keep taking it in by my mouth. I have been having problems with some of my organs and have been trying to find different solutions to taking all the meds. I do wear a patch...I have met some women here and one woman has been truly special with me because she too has an illness that causes a lot of pain. She just moved down here to FL within the last year and she loves it here where we live and she said her whole attitude with life has changed even with the financial devastation she is going thru also. She doesn't allow me to be alone too long without coming by and talking with me while trying to get me to join her and her friends for some of their parties,e tc. It has been so long since I can go do those things and fake it. I am going to try. I have had to let my youngest daughter that lives close to me go a bit. She is a big stressor to me and I love her so much but I need to do it so that I can get well and really get the respect I deserve from her. I spoiled her too long and now it is tough to let go for awhile and I miss my grandson, but I know it is needed. The girlfriend I made here that doesn't even know me well knew that she was a big cause of the stress in my life. I can't do it anymore for her. I just ran out of the money to support them. I don't think she believes me because I was always able to get back up on my feet and get a loan or something to take care of things. This time I lost it all. I want to congradulate you on your daughter's get married, please send my best wishes. This is the most important promise she will ever make and it must be thrilling to be a part of all the festivities that go along with it. That is the stress I want. Even the good stuff can be stressful, but that is the type of stress I would love to have everyday. Take care of yourself and if you ever have time please keep in touch at xxxxx@xxx {edited for privacy}.

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All I can tell you is that many years ago during the Woodstock Era, we never thought twice about how we ingested a drug....certainly, snorting substances worked most times better without having to ever consider the use of a hypodermic...And then one night in 1972 (it was Spring)....my good friend and I decided to empty out a couple of Seconal capsules and snort the contents. I can only say that my memory is extrme burning and the 2 of us with our nostrils in the water fountain trying to put out the fire in our nasal passages and waiting for an ambulance to get us to the local hospital ER....Diagnosis: 2nd degree burns...what to do? doctor shrugged his shoulders, and said, well, #1, pray to God that you're still alive; 2) might as well move a couple of beach chairs next to that water fountain; 3) pick up an aloe vera plant (back then, aloe vera was not yet popular in the states)....We were admitted for 3 days in fear that infection might set in, we might go into shock...once we were pronounced stable we were released; stable doesn't mean pain free...we sat by our water fountain for 3 additional weeks.
It sounds to me, as some others here have said, that you're not looking for pain relief, but continuing your addiction and trying to reach a new high.
And screwing around with Opana ER is more than dangerous, it could be deadly....my suggestion...get yourself to an NA meeting immediately. It's truly amazing how much of our pain is lifted off of our shoulder when we can admit to ourselves just how helpless we are when we go into self-imposed isolation. Sorry if you think I'm preaching...I simply am concerned about your wellness. Many of us have already hit rock bottom and many of us are afraid to admit they've reached that scary place. But remember, you're not thinking clearly and you MUST learn to stop isolating and to reach out. There will be many people waiting to help you.

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To: 2LUVLIFE2.....

My pleasure writing you back dear...Ok, here are my words of advice my friend...Dont be to hard okn yourself about the situation with your daughter right now..I realize it is your family, and letting go of family is sometimes a hard thing to do, but if it is a situation where you find yourself dragging, and it is making your life a more stressful position having to deal with her and her problems, then it is a time to make this part of your life, FOR YOU..A person needs to be part of your life and there to comfort you, love you, and no matter what it is, always have their shoulder there to lean on...If a family member begins to bring you down and make you feel less of a woman than you really are, it is time to distance yourself and heal...If you are not strong, and the person you are deep inside then you will do no good for her or anyone else, especially yourself. I can write to you and say, let her go, get her out of your life, but it isnt that easy and I know this..But it is time for you to take time away as you are and concentrate on your addiction, health, and finding yourself again...

As Magmannj had said, we all come to a point in our lives no matter what the situation is, it doesnt even have to be about addiction, but we hit rock bottom and that is where we finally realize it is time, time for us...Time for us to be honest with ourselves and seek help along with what we want out of life...It doesnt all have to be bad, and dont convince yourself that your a bad person for doing what you have done. Ya know, keep moving ahead, keep your head up, dont look down and when you get in front of the mirror next, really look at yourself...Thisnis what I did, when we look at our reflection, it is a true eye opener to whom we want to be again...We are all very strong.....We all can do this.....And you have begun the hardest part already by knowing what stressers are bringing you down and eliminating them right now innthis time in your life...GOOD......FOR.....YOU.....Keep up the great work...and when you begin to get down, go look in that mirror and see ONLY the strong woman that you are and want to be...dont frown, but instead smile and say to yourself, I CAN AND WILL DO THIS....If You become your best friend, your strength, and your support...You will find that this road you, me and all of us are and will travel, will not be as bumby as they say it is....I PROMISE.....i will keep in touch with you, and I will be there for you because I have been through this and still to this day fight addiction...I will say though, winning is the best feeling ever....;)))

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TO: MAGMANNJ....

Thank Goodness you came out of that situation ok..I can imagine the burning that was going on in your nasal passages, ouchy.... Thanks for posting positive in here..We all need a wake up call in our lives at one point or another, and some dont come out as lucky as we have, they lie six feet under ground without a second chance, very sad..

Addiction is a cry for help, it can be silent or really mAke a loud noise out there..I am thankful for this site, I have been able to talk to others and help them, we all need help, and asking for it is the biggest step and sign of true strength, I believe...A lot of people think of addicts as loosers, I think of addicts as strong people, not week because.........We are individuals who have faced a very tuff road, and we are strong enough to know when it is time to stop, or time to ask for help...If we didnt face this tough obstacle in life, we may not have found our true strengths at all.., and that we have...Some may not be at this point in their life yet, but they know deep down..Addicts are strong people who show courage that many dont..I may have others that do not believe in what I just said, but I feel we are strong.....and when we make it past addiction, we can do ANYTHING...;)))

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The new opana made me quit a 4 year addiction to snorting #2.. 40mg a day --80 total, when I saw the new ones I freaked and new the old stop signs were history! The new ones can't be crushed with a hammer... Get on suboxone...and be done with it!

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