False Positive For Benzodiazepines
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Eric Says:
 
I have been testing positive for benzos and i cant figure out why. I have been taking suboxone & Ondansetron & promethazine. Thats it. If i fail another drug test, then my doctor is gonna kick me out. If anybody knows of any common substances, prescription or over the counter medications please inform me. Thanks

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John Says:
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God Bless you! I'm on the other side of the coin now for the past 12yrs with STAGE 4 CANCER! I DON'T CLAIM TO KNOW IT ALL ECT??? IT IS A HORRIBLE bureaucracy How my "OLD" PROFESSION DOCS & NOW PHARMACISTS ALIKE ARE TAKING AWAY MEDS FROM THE SICK & SUFFERING. The actual issue if you have read a lot or a few of my posts, is the DEA & OBAMA ADMIN ALONG WITH 'CERTAIN" STATES HAVING A NEW DRUG War on PRESCRIPTION DRUGS! MAINLY OPIATE'S & BENZOS ECT.... ANYWAY IT TOOK MOST LIKELY A FEW SENATORS & CONGESSMENS' CHILDREN TO OD OR DIE ECT, JUST TO HAVE THESE SCREWED UP DEA STRINGENT PROFILING ECT...IT WORKS ITS WAY DOWN TO THE UNDERPAID (IE. OBAMACARE) HMO CLINIC DOCS THAT LOSE LICENCES OVER JUST ACTUALLY DOING THERE JOBS? SMH....SO NOW I CANT EVEN TAKE PAIN MEDS FOR STAGE 4 CANCER, wtf? FOR THE PAST 2YRS BEEN STUCK ON METHADONE & IT DOESN'T WORK WELL FOR PAIN AT ALL? WORST PART IS THAT IT'S WAY MORE DANGEROUS & ADDICTING THAN ACTUAL HEROIN! HORRIBLE!??

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Heather Says:
 
I'm in a methadone clinic in Brattleboro Vermont. They took a urine drug test. My sister died six years ago because of the mixture of benzos and methadone. I am very adamant about not taking any kind of benzos but I'm coming up positive for them. I don't like benzos and am scared s***less of taking them because of what happened to my sister. Although I take Tylenol pm and sleep aids cause I have had a really hard time sleeping. What can I do about this positive benzos bs. Please help.

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Jj Says:
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What other medications prescribed and over the counter do you take

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Eric Says:
 
Sorry John, You aren't trying to help. You're just showing your ignorance and hate as you accuse everyone of lying and act like your "education" makes you an expert on drug test accuracy and apparently now psychology.

Just because you were repeatedly told something and had your memory tested to make sure you remembered what you were told doesn't mean ANY of it is actually true. You have to be able to think and put together facts to have any clue if what you were told was correct.

If you were to even trouble yourself (as much as you have here) to read actual analysis of test result accuracy you would know that it isn't very accurate. If you had any field knowledge you would know that getting another test isn't always easy or automatic and that even if it comes back negative your records still show a positive test and, given the stigma against some medication, can compromise the quality of your care forever.

No studies or analysis of any kind says the tests are 100% accurate. If you take enough tests you will eventually test positive. If you are on lifetime medication you'll end up with several positive tests. These are facts based on math instead of what you call facts which in several cases is basically just heresay.

The wake up call is for you. Stop pretending you can help the liars and assume you're talking to honest people with honest questions. The liars know they are lying but their existence doesn't change anything for the honest people. Everyone in your profession is so fixated on the cheaters you jump at any chance to put honest people into the cheater category. Amazing medications that can change lives and eliminate incredible suffering aren't being given to people who really need it because you and people like you are so concerned you might get tricked or because your entire industry is more concerned with drug addicts than sick people.

None of you are nearly as smart as you think and your myopic education makes you qualified to do nothing more than you were specifically trained to do. You're in fact less qualified to speak outside of your very specific area of expertise than most people with more rounded educations and or experience.





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John Milton Says:
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That's a total made up like Zoloft does nothing of the sort? I am a pharmacist and I know the majority of you free actually taking benzos and other opiates saying that you're not taking them? Which is very common. Especially for addicts unfortunately. Admitting you have a problem is half the battle actually more than half the battle. There are tests that are known to be false negative and false positive that all you have to do is have them retest the test you took and if it comes up as a false positive again they will charge you as in you paying for the test and then the doctor will proceed accordingly as far as kicking you out of the program as you mentioned. So there's no anomaly in this whole thing I've taking many courses just on this topic alone in the 8 years that I went to school for pharmacology. Because I was a pharmacist MD. So wake up people just trying to help here

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Ben Says:
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Most pharmacist since they have a college education can spell correctly and write a clear and concise sentence. You can't do either. Your obviously not a pharmacist as a matter of fact I don't think you're even a high school graduate....

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B 2 Says:
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I failed a drug test for benzos & that is one drug I have never really took my freedom is at risk&the dss is the one that done the test so getting my daughter back is at risk to I take zantac,pheragan,subutex,&I had a c-section almost 3wks ago ik how u all feel saying ur finally doing good in life then something like a drug screen comes back positive for something u no good&damn well u haven't took no benzos can someone plz.....help me

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Eric Says:
 
Just read Sam's comment (number 107)

Thinking back, I believe both of my positives occurred when insurance switched me from Lyrica to Gabapentin for a few months. I hadn't thought about that but having been on same meds for 4 years and never having positives other than during that span really makes me wonder.

Doh!

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Eric Says:
 
Hi John,

I appreciate your time answering peoples questions. I was the one (might have been others) who mentioned casually that Naproxen has been known to cause false positives.

You aren't correct in regards to having the same sample retested. They do not save or offer that option. I talked with the lab about saving some for a retest if it came back positive because my tests, and I assume everyone else's tests were non confirmation tests with really aren't even allowed to be used for any legal or medication suspending actions.

The more careful urine test with confirmation is much more accurate and tests a second time if anything comes back positive. My doctor has been unwilling to allow the the urine with confirmation.

As for your "suspicions" It's a regular MD. I've never had any drug or addiction issues. I don't drink, smoke or even take medications for cold or flu. I don't even eat fast food, drink carbonated beverages, or eat food with HFCS or hydrogenated oils. I haven't taken any recreational drugs for decades and other than a medical emergency when I was given a single benzo in 2010, I haven't taken anything Benzo related or that should reasonable be expected to cause 2 positives out of 6 tests.

The 99.9% statement is also absolutely false and there are ZERO recognized publications that agree with a 99.9% accuracy rate for urine testing. This is the attitude that is costing me, and I'm guessing at least some of the people here. (some of you are taking drugs and quite frankly should be on a different site). I tested positive on two different occasions, neither time using a urine with confirmation and, as you say, I know for an absolute fact I didn't take anything yet he sits there and tells me he's never seen a false positive as though what he thinks is true has value when I have the facts and know he's so wrong with me he's probably ruined other peoples lives. All I wanted was the option to use the most accurate test positive before he stains my records with questions of drug abuse or adjusts my care based on bad tests.

I was in bed for 10 years and I'm now up and working a somewhat real job. I went from not being able to walk 300 feet and refusing to get further than that from a vehicle to walking for miles and even running. I wouldn't risk that for anything.

As for legal action, I tried to get the dr to give me a better test and it was denied so I talking with an attorney I know and he agreed to call the DR. The DR refused to talk to him and wasn't happy when I came in. I told him I wasn't looking to sue and that I had found out that DR's like urine tests over blood tests because they can detect the drug for a longer period of time so that I was fine with the urine test as long as it included the confirmation. (initially I wanted a blood test assuming it was more accurate) He didn't recalling telling the nurse no when I called and I had taken my test earlier that day so we just ignored the issue for that visit but who knows what test I'll get next time.

You state we always have the legal right to retest but you seem to think that people hire attorneys for something other than enforcing their legal rights. I asked repeatedly for immediate retests the first two times I tested positive because I didn't want to ruin my relationship with a DR I really needed to help me beyond giving me drugs. Those two tests have me working with a doctor that assumes I'm a lying drug addict and I wasn't given any option to contest those single panel results which resulted in a relationship that begrudgingly continues my medication with no effort to help or belief in anything I say. Sure there is a legal right to get tested again that can be enforced at some point but I've been put in a category of people that need to be protected from themselves and can't even be trusted to report honest symptoms because my initial tests were not confirmed and now have to wonder every month if I'm going to lose my job because my medication gets changed.

I know there is a tendency to make a lot of assumptions about doctors and medical care and I'm sure my situation is a significant outlier but one thing you can see in a lot of these posts is the impact of the fear of not knowing what the person who decides your quality of life is going to do when they trust a single panel urine test so much they will not even confirm the results.

Again I want to thank you for taking the time to help. I apologize about coming off a little angry but it's a very emotional topic and it's very difficult to accept the constant assumption that I'm a drug addict and a liar. I know that isn't your intent but when you include it in your comments it continues a pattern.

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Rabbit Says:
 
I go to a methadone clinic and it's very common for the methadone itself to come up as a false positive for oxycodone AND for trazadone to come up as a false positive for benzos.According to one of the people who work at the clinic,there are quite a few non-benzo medications that will come up as a false positive for benzos so it's important that you let the clinic know about all of the medications that you are being prescribed whether it's a controlled substance or not.That way you won't get kicked out for something you didn't do.

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Also getting false positives Says:
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I know how you feel, putting your trust in man can get you killed and I am not exaggerating. Sad truth..

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Kristen Says:
 
Exactly my problem! I struggled for my sobriety and cstayed clean! Now they throw it all away with one false positive..

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Sarah Says:
 
Hi John: This post I'm sharing with you is more of a statement than a question, and I have shared this information with as many people as I could on here over the years. John, did you know that I have proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that energy drinks such as "Monster" will cause you to test positive for Benzos? I had been in a treatment program for a couple of years, and all of a sudden one month I began testing positive for benzo's which I vehemently tried to deny because I knew for a fact I wasn't taking anything like that. I ended up losing all my carries, and was one appointment away from being kicked out of the program when my doctor FINALLY sent one of my positive ones off for more detailed testing. When that test came back (very expensive test I might add) it stated that there were NO Benzo's detected in my sample at all! Of course now began the task of trying to find out what was causing the initial tests to come back positive in the first place because my doctor did not want to send my tests away every time as it costs a lot of money, and not to mention they had to send it out of province for God's sake. Long story short we started to suspect energy drinks early on, and seeing as how the only medication I was taking at the time was methadone it had to be the culprit. So one week I went without drinking any energy drinks at all, and that Friday morning I went to the clinic, gave a sample and then drank half a can witnessed by the nurse. I had to wait in their presence for 2 hours, and then give another sample which was shipped off together for testing. Well 2 weeks later I find out for sure that the first sample came back clean, and the second came back positive for benzo's. Those were then sent on to the second testing, and neither one of them came back positive for any type of benzo!! I have never in my life went through such stress, and vindication all at once and I can't tell you how good it felt to finally have the proof I needed to make them believe me. I mean it's not exactly the easiest thing in the world to try and convince someone that you are telling the truth when you are a known drug addict. One day during all of this nightmare I actually had a Nurse Practitioner tell me this "Sarah, I was speaking to someone at the lab, and they said the only way you can test positive for a benzo is if you ingested it"! She then went on to say that I need to start being honest with them about my drug use from there on out. I can't tell you how many times I left my doctor's office in tears during this 5 month long nightmare. So to anyone reading this post, if you are drinking energy drinks, and testing positive for benzos when you know you aren't taking any please demand they send your tests off for more extensive testing (even if you have to pay yourself)!

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Ben M Says:
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Here is a message for all on this chat page. Urinalysis is a cheap way to test for drug abuse however the results of this cheap and highly HIGHLY unreliable test is and will always be subject to cross contamination by everything from the food consumed in the previous 48 hours to OTC medications. For example ...eating a poppy seed bagel can result in a positive heroin result. THIS IS A FACT! Google it! Using Aspercream with lidocaine can leave cocaine metabolites in urine showing a false positive for cocaine abuse. Most if not all "dipstick urinalysis" has up to a 30% false positive or false negative rate and that is the bottom line period. There is ONLY ONE WAY to know absolutely what is or is not in ones urine and that is a Gas Chromatography Mass Spectrometry test. However that test can cost anywhere from $250 to $500 bucks, NOT $2.50 which is the cost of Dipstick test purchased wholesale on Amazon. Many lives and carries have gone down the s***ter along with tested urine and that is so unfortunate. So my advice to anyone who's life or wellbeing is on the urinalysis test chopping block is GET A LAWYER AND THREATENED LAW SUIT. I assure you that will get the attention of your overlords.

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Me Says:
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Your clinic should offer you to be tested more thorough through the hospital. It will show detailed info of what's showing up as a false positive for benzos. Most clinics do anyway. Benydrils do show false positives for benzos at times. Good luck to ya.

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John Says:
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Now regarding your exact question it's very simple. If you said that you took benzos I forgot if it says a week or two weeks ago maybe even three but I think it was less than 3 weeks and I'm not sure if you said what kind of benzos maybe you said diazepam or just said benzos? But either way and a lot of doctors don't know this even as well for some reason but the labs do and of course it can show up most benzos will in fact and can stay in your system and urine for up to 6 weeks!

So again if you're going to take any benzos and you're not sure when you're going to be tested make sure that you don't take any benzos if you're going to be tested and you're not sure of the date because it could be in your system like I said for up to 6 weeks. If you're into Taking Chances it sometimes comes out quicker but never quicker than a couple weeks even if you drink tons of water but I'm not saying to do anything like try to use a cover up for any of these things that they say you can do from all the different things they say online and you probably seen before? Either way these tests that they have now especially ones that Labs do or the hospital all kinds of them regardless they show up as some type of cover up in layman's terms so I would just say don't use benzos within 6 weeks of a test unfortunately it's one of those that will be mostly in your urine up to six weeks sometimes shorter but it's up to you about taking the chance? I hope that helps you out

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John Says:
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But it has nothing to do with ibuprofen if you read any of my posts and I'm a pharmacist always glad to help but I want you to know that be honest with yourself for once and again you don't want to take a lot of ibuprofen it'll mess up your liver if it's not messed up already? Just take Ibuprofen as it says on the bottle or your doctor tells you to take if it's a higher dose and you'll be fine. It's never going to just come up as diazepam I promise you that I went to school as meaning a long time to become a pharm MD which is basically a doctor who knows more about medication then doctors do and also I am able to write prescriptions except for schedule 2 medication which is medicines like Oxycontin and stuff like that most pain medicines. So I'm telling you that anything could come up as a false negative or false positive and you always have rights meaning that if your on probation like I think you might have mentioned because I try to help as many people as possible since I myself have stage 4 cancer and right now and for the last 11 years so I'm laid up almost 24 7 and if you need any help ever THEN JUST REPLY AND IN YOUR POST JUST USE MY NAME IN IT PEOPLE & I WILL TRY TO REPLY ASAP? Thank you have a great day guys. Remember I'm in the same boat as you are except I just have the schooling and the license so I can give you proper information that I've learned!!! :) :)

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John Says:
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It's not the Benadryl it's really any medication and it doesn't even have to be a medication at all for them to come back false positive or false negatives. So everyone pretty much is asking the same question.

But honestly what I've noticed is you just gotta be honest with yourself, everybody you know if you've taken a benzodiazepine and what you put in your mouth right that's the bottom line so you know if you're taking any kind of medication and you should if you don't know when slipping you some type of Mickey lol meaning no one's slipping you some type of drug. So when it comes to people that are on probation or sign drug contract with their doctors I have been on many of these medicines and more of them so I have that experience as well and can tell you from experience I've had the same thing happened to me and what you can do is for 1 you can always request any of these people who test you and it's a law so you can go to the legal aid if you don't have money for a lawyer to fight this? But it's your right for you to have this test or any test you take retested! But they will retest the exact your analysis that you took before and was and came back false positive or false negative. So it's not like you get to take another test all over again or anything. In most cases as well if it comes back again as a false positive then they will make you pay for whatever the test cost and usually it's covered under your insurance for the first test but you usually have to sign a piece of paper when you first sign up with the agreement either in a methadone clinic pain clinic or any doctor that's states that stuff. But it's your right and they can't just discharge you on those grounds. So make sure you understand your rights because Physicians have gotten worse and worse ever since Obamacare happened and don't get me started regarding that because as you see I already like to try to help as many people as possible and my post might be long but basically if you reply to my post from what I see it will send me a direct email to my inbox, leave my name John and I will try to find a way with you to correspond?

MEANING ANYONE ELSE THAT MIGHT NEED ANYTHING AT ALL??? THAT YOU THINK I CAN HELP YOU WITH, IF YOU UNDERSTAND WHAT I'M SAYING FRIENDS?

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John Says:
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Look I read a few of the post and I'm replying to you and a bunch of people if you read some of my posts you'll see my qualifications as a pharmacist for almost 15 years and I must have stage 4 cancer patient so I have that in common as far as I also take a lot of these medications and have to take tests periodically. I also tell anybody that actually replies to any of my posts since I can't leave my email address or I would speak to you frankly if you know what I'm saying? Basically as far as false positive tests go in general if any of you or all of you are being honest and aren't taking any benzodiazepines whatsoever which you would know what you're ingesting and could find out with one click of a button. Meaning the internet will tell you and you do know what you're taking and if you don't like if you're taking a pill like from the internet that you bought like an online pharmacy that saying it might be just ibuprofen. I use that as an example because it's possible that it could be any drug so never do those things unless you know what you're getting into because you actually could die and I know some friends that that happened to so just be careful and get in touch with me if you have any questions about that KIND OF STUFF AS WELL!!

So regarding false positives it can happen to anyone for any reason. In fact I have a special urinalysis test I have to take every 6 months for my stage 4 cancer and so it's known to show false positives or false negatives in my case it was a false negative which is horrible because obviously with my type of rare cancer they don't do the next step which would be a MRI to confirm that the cancer is back which is very aggressive. My point being is that anything really can trigger a false negative or a false positive test and it doesn't have to be anything that you're ingesting either it could be something natural in your body that produces it or it can be something you actually eating your food that would contribute to the test being a false negative or false positive. Now remember I'm speaking from many years of this type of experience being a pharmacist MD which is a pharmacist that has extra schooling and can actually write prescriptions eccept for schedule 2 medications?

So again I also wanted to answer this person's post that for some reason thinks that clonidine is a benzodiazepine and it's nothing of the sort that is 100% wrong. You actually mentioned that clonidine is actually Klonopin or otherwise known as clonazepam or rivotril and many other names that is called outside the US and all around the world. In fact every medication we take has hundreds of other different names that you wouldn't even recognize outside of the USA. I'm not sure if some people are using this website in other parts of the world. But I'm not sure about that either way no clonidine is 4 high blood pressure and that's mainly what it's prescribed for but many prescriptions are also prescribed off-label but lately the government has lost their mind which is nothing new regarding drugs that they prescribed and how they prescribe them which literally makes me sick and if I could work I would definitely be out of the health profession and that's why lots of medical doctors and alike are leaving the profession as if we already didn't have a shortage of doctors if you didn't notice yet? Anyway I usually am available 24-7 for the most part since I'm laid in bed which is pretty messed up because it's been 10 years now and been through hospice where they thought I was going to die? I also couldn't eat or walk for a year-and-a-half and I'm still alive and I'm walking and eating again. So remember I don't know how it works but I can't leave my information and on this site or they won't let me leave these posts and I'm trying to help out as many people as possible because I understand how frustrating that can be. But like I said you just press reply to my post and it gives me notice to my real email address that I will then get back to you if you have further questions but you have to address me as John so I know that it's you asking me the question and we'll figure it out because I just got 1 for the first time right now and I can't figure out who's asking me what LOL? So I hope I help out some people regarding all this false negative stuff or false positive same thing really. And remember not only do I have a lot of experience as a professional in this field but I'm also a patient! So for the last 11 years being a stage 4 cancer patient and taking most of this medication and lots more I have a lot of experience that way too so I can really HELP ALOT OF YOU PEOPLE WITH OTHER QUESTIONS YOU MAY HAVE? IF YOU CAN UNDERSTAND WHAT I'M SAYING THEN DEFINITELY GET IN TOUCH WITH ME?!! I CAN & AM TOTALLY WILLING TO HELP YOU OUT!!!!! Hope I answered those questions they're very direct and just be honest with yourself you feel me?

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Lasyboy Says:
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Benadryl can cause a fals positive. It's the diphenhydramine that will cause this

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