Easiest Way To Remove New Oxycontin 80 Op Coating (Page 6)

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Hey! In all the other threads about the new oxy's -- everyone is stressing the new coatings, it seems. I have found the easiest and most efficient way to get BOTH coatings off is {edited for safety reasons}. Thought y'all would like to know that.

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Wow - I'm shocked to say the least. Last year I was in Pittsburgh, PA helping my Mother who is terminal with cancer. Although I have had 34 surgeries under general, on total disability and live with pain 24/7 and would rather die on most days (weather changes, rain, snow, increased activity) I loved being with my Mother and taking care of her. I filled my 3 month RX for OxyContin 80mg prior to returning home in September. A few weeks later, all havoc broke loose in my life. Headaches that crippled me and after 22 days of not being even able to shower, my husband carried me upstairs and bathed me and took me to a hospital - they said "migraines" and referred me a neurologist. In the meantime, fever/chills, and all sorts of wild scenario's were happening. First we thought, absolute exhaustion being Mom's caretaker for 10 months 24/7 taking care of her and my body just needed to rebuild itself after enduring that marathon, plus the mental anguish. I've always had low BP, and now it was doubled. Then to an ophthalmologist who wanted to do immediate surgery for glaucoma because my pressure in my eyes were so high - I had seen an ophthalmologist in Pgh and had a clean bill of health. All sorts of things and on top of that - UNBELIEVABLE AMOUNTS OF PAIN. We (husband/myself) filled my next RX in December and things got even worse. Hindsight tells me that I must have had some OP's in the Sept Rx and ALL OP's in the December RX - as the severity of symptoms doubled after December. So we began to wonder if the pharmacy technician possibly could have switched and dispensed fake meds to me (anything is possible in Vegas was my thought) - so after 5 months of agony I googled "Fake OxyContin" and stumbled across this discussion board - I just began crying when I read that I was not alone - I was NOT losing my mind - that this unrelenting pain IS real and all of these horrible things happening to me WERE real and finally something made sense as to WHY. I did check the Purdue Pharm website and under Press Releases, I noted that there were NONE about the change in the medication. I find that appalling. I had to notify my own physician that the drug had been reformulated. I would have thought that if Purdue stood behind "It's the same thing just safer" that they would have had an AD campaign and there "cold callers" at the Doctors' offices would have been knocking at MD office doors letting them know that it was SAFE to prescribe - but notice, that did NOT happen. Hmmmmm. My last job was as a Practice Mgr for 4 Internal Medicine MD's and everyday we had Drug Rep's in our office giving us Post It, Scrubs, patient pamphlets, etc - they should have been flooding all physician offices to boost physician's writing of these new "safe" medication, and how great it was - but they didn't. I worked in Clinical Trials for years and I know for a fact that they take 10-15 years from start to finish for a NEW medication and for a bioequivalency clinical trial (generic as effective as name brand) those usually take 5-10 years and MUST be tested first in the lab, then on animals, then on HEALTH patients, then finally on people who normally take the name brand medication YET I have yet to see how Purdue Pharmaceuticals could have done ANY of this - so how could the FDA have approved this horrible CHANGE in a medication I have successfully been on for over 10 years? I believe that a great deal of responsibility lies on the FDA and we should be addressing our concerns to them, as they approved a medication that DOES NOT WORK the same as the original! I think calling Purdue is a waste of time, when the FDA had the final stamp of approval. I did submit an "Incident Report" with the FDA and encourage everyone who has chronic pain to do the same. These must be logged and tallied and reported quarterly to an Oversight Committee and the more they receive, the sooner something could possibly happen to help us all. I never knew that they changed the medication, I was able to take care of my Mother because of the old formulation and able to "live"; now - well, it's been 10 days since I've showered. It's just too painful to even move on the new version. Now that I know what the "root of my evil" is - I can concentrate on obtaining a new medication that is effective; but I still think something is extremely skewed with the FDA approval of this medication and people are going to die on it; because they are going to accidentally take more - I know I had to finally write down what time I took my last one because I was NOT getting any relief as I used to and therefore, took another one thinking I must have forgotten. So I had NO idea that they changed the medication, and Purdue Pharm. should have sent out patient pamphlets and updated their pharmaceutical flyer (the one in the medication bag from the pharmacy) and notified ALL patients that the medication HAD BEEN CHANGED - but that did not happen either. Way too many things were not handled the way other changes in medications have been handled and the timeline does not add up; nor the public education; patient education; physician education, etc and there are going to be many more patients in the ER, hospital, etc because of their "hiding" the changes in a medication. I am a legitimate pain medication user - I will not lower myself to argue with the pain ignorant people who have written on this site and just feel "what goes around - comes around". After working 20 years in the medical field, I learned a hard lesson. I used to begrudge filling out disability forms for "back pain"; until mine was damaged beyond repair, despite 4 surgeries. So... what I felt about other peoples' pain came back to haunt me and I feel that those that are ignorant of true, honest chronic pain, one day will have the chance to experience it - so ignore their comments and don't take them to heart (as they have none). May God help us all deal with our pain daily and find us some form of relief.

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You can get instant and quality relied from most several other pain relievers. Fentenyl patch is one . Actif is another. Duragesic patch....and the list goes on and on. Try a DIlaudid 8 mg. tab. If you have to inject it is is somewhat safer than injecting Oxys. Save yourself from a lifetime of misery. FInd the medication or conbination that works well. Oxys are not the answer. The vast majority of Oxy users are on it to just get high. There are other medications that work just as well.

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Purdue changed this medication due to the deaths caused by the Oxy's. This medication really had no necessary use because there are other meds that do just as well. Too bad the Oxy's provided a superior high. This just caused it to become a med with a bad rep to say the least. Many deaths, pill mills, large amounts of money and doctors willing to prescribe to obtain this great wealth by prescribing this med. Ive have always maintained a Oxycodone ... either a 15mg or 30mg. always provided a more intense euphoria and it released immediately. DIdnt last a long but you could always throw down a few more and is just a good the second time around. Less dangerous and you may see to live another day. Dont buy anything with a prescription.

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You appear to have many issues in your life. Too many to mention. Get off the OXYCONTIN before it kills you. I see these fools on this website injection this crap even after the reformulation of the product. Needle Freeks. They will never learn or will they? I did .... as a 35 year poly-prescription user who's wife is a R.N. and brother in law who is a pharmicist. I can without a doubt you are on a downward spin to a deathwish. Get off now a go to a methadone clinic or preferable find a M.D. who will Prescribe from his office. Hope you got the money or the insurance. Save you own life.

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This is a posting wortly of posting. I have cold turkey Heroin many times .... 7-10 days and you will make it through. It takes WILLPOWER. The problem these days is weakness on the park of our society of insecure wimps. MAN UP you pussies. It can be done with nothing. No drugs. No alcohol. Just a desire to quit. Get somewhere by yourself and suffer you wimp. It can be done and you wont die. You are not a weaking. Do it. DO it now before you die or go to jail.

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There are no plans to revert to the old formulation of the OXY's. FInd another medication to shove down you sick esophagus or inject into your abcessed arm. You day you will be sorry just as I was. A car load of schedule 2,3 and 4 controlled substances. It almost killed us ....... and after a few years it destroyed and killed several of my friends. A horrible way to live. But guess what it took me about 30 years to realize that. Im not clean now by a longshot but....I stay legal and I still like to partake of the pharmaceuticals but I only use schedule III and IV substances. Safer by far. Easier to obtain and still provide a quality high (which with a little but of diligence you can maintain a wife, family and a job. Takes a little work but it can be done. Good Luck

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The small bits of substances you get in your bloodstream will eventually destroy you. Later in life (should you live very long) you will regret it. Your body will break down with sickness and debilitating chronic problems and if your lucky you will stop and pray to GOD you get to live just a few more years. Unless of course you have a death wish. You got a family, kids? Im sure they either miss you now or wish you were dead.

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No true. Ive had a script for 480 pills before. A doctor is able to prescribe as many tabs as he deems necessary. Suppose a patient is going overseas and wont be back for 6 months or longer. Ever thought of that genius. A doctor can call the pharmacy and tell the pharmacist to fill the script because the patient is travelling overseas. The RPH will fill it. They did mine.

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Miss Nurse: DId you ever shortchange a patient by using or diverting some of his medication. If you were/are is such pain I can only assume you did. I would have if I was in that much pain. I could not even work if I was in that type of pain. You know as well as I do there are other powerful opiate painkillers that work just a well. I believe you just wanted the OXY because you wanted to experience the super intense euphoria the other meds dont quit supply as well as the OXY. Get to a pain management clinic and follow the rules.

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Let the emery sandpaper particles get into bloodstream and see how that is going to effect you like after a period of time. See you in the hospital.

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FYI, I was merely saying ur actions r counter productive, u tell me to find a forum to learn how to spike or snort, u call me names, say I'm not injured, ect, well, in short, I have bi-lateral a/c separations & bone spurrs w/clusters of cysts in L w/gross humorous dislocation, 3 degenerative discs, neck, mid & low back, lumbar radiculopathy, lumbar sprain, sacroiliitis, lateral epicondylitis, thoratic strain, sternoclavicular joint degenerative disease, cervical radiculopathy, nerve damage throughout, affective to siatic nerve bilaterally,( only to name a few) I've had,aside from gallons if cortizone injections, intercoastal nerve blocks, trigger point injections to the lateral epicondyles, sacroliliac joint injections, lumbar radiculopathy, lateral epicondylitis, cervical radiculopathy, ect, the best that "modern" medicine has done [for me] is having my pain dulled enough to function just to do normal everyday pedigree task's, until they changed my oc's to op's ! 1st I was taking #3 160mg oc's till discontinuance, then #2 80mg oc's 3x daily, w/60mg oxicodone 3x daily for bt pain. I couldn't take the op's, it caused many severe complications, so I now take #2 40mg OPANA tablet's 3x daily. They do not work as well, but they do have a longer afterlife than oc's. Anywho, needless to say, u r wrong when u said that I had no injuries, & that I should find a different site to learn how to shoot & snort to get high. I have real injuries, & try to give & obtain knowledge so that I can be informed, & inform others of the like, for the betterment of the greater good ! That is what this forum is for after all, is it not ? ! Sorry if u took offence to my comments, but it needed to be said, & u had me totally, totally wrong ! I'm suffering too, just like everybody here is, save for the fake ones ! But, I assure u, I'm NOT one of them !

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I cant believe that Purdue did this to us. Like the man I am replying to, when I started doing oxy 80's it was a miracle! I felt like a human being after being in excruciating pain every day for at least 10 years. I felt I was proudly one of the many again. Just because people abuse this or any drug for that matter, your punishing us all and don't even give a s**t if we suffer, going back to doing nothing because we cant anymore. Tell me Purdue, how do you feel taking so many peoples last chance of happiness away? Is this a power trip for you, or is it just because you can? Thanks so much for ending my managed pain life. I hope you can jerk off tonight with one more smile tonight. You are truly despised it seems by a lot of people and I am pleased to join every one of them.

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I'm assuming the Miss Nurse comment was directed to me; well first of all - NO... absolutely NEVER did I take any medication that did NOT belong to me or written on a prescription with my name on it. I was paralyzed after a work accident and therefore, worked FROM HOME for an addl year and 3 more back surgeries and post op complications so therefore, I was NOT near ANY patients whatsoever. You sure do jump to assumptions without asking the person on this site don't you. I have not made any assumptions about you which shows a difference in maturity level. I am on the Fentanyl Patch 100 mcg and have tried many other medications THROUGH the PAIN MANAGEMENT CENTER and I have done everything ABOVE BOARD 100%. My point was solely that I was NOT aware of a change from OC to OP, as I was too busy taking care of my Mother and then got knocked down flat and had to go to a hospital to learn that the side effects I suffered from (and at times hoped I died instead) were in fact, caused by a change in the medications and I think that Purdue owes it to the patients, physicians and public to be made aware of a chemical formulation change. MANY people are allergic to medications and chemicals - such as Premarin. I broke out fiercely while on that medication and finally learned that it is derived from HORSE's which I am very much allergic to - so... with that being said - Purdue OWED it to EVERYONE to educate them that they are NOT receiving the same medication that they had received for as many years as they had been taking - I would have then known immediately what was going on with me, not have to wear a holter monitor, glaucoma surgery, see neurologist for migraines, and a slew of other physicians but in fact, my medications changed and each chemical interacts with each person differently and I apparently am NOT tolerant to "swallowing as directed" my new medication formulation anymore and will seek out a new medication. I have boxes of Actiq, bottles of Roxanol, Fentanyl patches made by Sandoz (allergic to the adhesive), etc sitting at my house because I also had allergic reactions to them. But EACH and EVERY pill I have swallowed (never crushed, snorted or other methods) have been written for ME and no one else and we, the pain management users, are entitled to know when our medications have changed and to be aware of potential side effects versus going through agony and a slew of physicians and they find more and more issues - when in fact THEY ARE ALL CAUSED by the new formulation. Everyone that has found this new formulation to be ineffective should bombard the FDA and show them that this medication IS NOT the same - and that their abbreviated bioequivalency clinical trials most likely were fudged and falsified because they did NOT have the time necessary to conduct the proper clinical trials the FDA requires in order to approve a new medication as a replacement and that is the avenue I am going to pursue and I'm sure I will find out that they cut corners everywhere and we ARE the guinea pigs and we actually ARE doing the clinical trials as we speak and live in excruciating pain right now - so notify the FDA on their website there is a downloadable form, postage paid form to fill out with the side effects IT is causing you and NOTIFY them - THAT IS WHAT WILL CHANGE THINGS!

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People, stop the bickering. We all ahve problems. Some more sever than others. Fact is..no matter where you get pain meds if you ve been on them for a long time..your addicted just as myself. My does are lots highter than my drs allow me because ive been on the same med for yrs now..Its my drs fault that he chooses nt to give me anything stronger so..i have to take more. I wont go on and on here..just stop the bickering and try and be more understanding of others here.

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Hailey - I am with you all the way. But please let us, at least, have a place to vent. And that's what we do here. All of us are in pain and Purdue is the one that did this to us. We have to try to move forward but I don't know how to do this. So therefore, we get frustrated and type things we don't mean . The others that try to tell us how to de-bunk the coatings etc., I ignore. So that is why we are here. To listen to the others, so we don't feel all so all alone. Peace be with you!

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wtarin1..I totally understand what Purdue has done and I agree its bad for us in pain. I had just gotten oxycontin a month or so before they changed it. I noticed the difference. My dr then tried me on the patches which didnt help me as did the oxycontin. Now im taking morphiene er with lortab for break through pain and still miss the old oxycontin but i truely feel whats done is done and purdue wont bring them back no matter what. Hey..dont think i give up easil;y and that im a 'yes' woman all the time because im not!! HA not all the time..just when it benifits me haha..anyway..vent away Baby!!! t'ake care and peace with you also

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naw this how u do it forsure.
1st. take a hose clamp use as a grinder and scrap coding off.
2nd. (this sounds crazy but works) next wrap in a bill or envelope and take a hammer and hit it 3 ta 5 times and flatten the pill. like a pancake
3. Now get the hose clamp/grinder back out and just rub pill back and forth on grinder. U will b done in 3 ta 4 mins
step 4. Snort and enjoy, write me back and tell me how it work or if u got ?

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Johnnyblazer...sounds like it would work to me,,I'd try it if I could get my hands on some..I sent your post to a friend in Va..he'll try it for sure...thanks

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I was prescribed the old oc 80s now im just on 2 opana er 40 mg a day. And for people who just snort or abuse them everyone just does opanas now.

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If anyone wants to know if u can snort OPANA 40mg, YES, U CAN ! be sure to do so gently, so u don't get the drips, for at least 30 minutes ! Ur pain will be greatly diminished, however, it won't last as long though. U can trust in what I say, because I speak from personal experience ! I too know what its like to have NOWHERE TO HIDE FROM THE PAIN ! ! ! I do wholeheartedly emphasise with those in this unfortunate existence ! Make sure its in the nasal cavity for a 1/2 hour minimum, to be absorbed fully ! I never had to do this with the oc's ! This is the 1st time I've done it this way, but it works much better ! Hope this helps, & I'm not suggesting anyone do it, but if u do, pls use caution !!!!!!

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