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Oxycontin And Oxycodone Urine Drug Test (Page 7)
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Renee Says:
When taking a urine drug test, does oxycontin and oxycodone come up as the same drug? I took a 40mg oxycontin on a monday and was drug tested on thurs. I am tested once a month from my pain mangement dr. to make sure my oxycodone's are in my system. So will the 2 drugs show up as one or is there a differance in them with the drug test?
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Id like to know if anyone could give me some advice go to a pain doc he ask me how the medicine is helping i told him i was still hurting it wasn't working well then he acts like he isn't going to see me no more he told me he would give me time to think about it its like if i dont tell him what he wants to hear he will not see me any more and that's bs i just told him the truth.
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Cynthia Says:
To Jdhoss: You surely have my sympathy. I sometimes think that if one more person says to me, "Well, you LOOK good" (the implication being that looking good means I can't possibly be hurting that badly), I'll SCREAM! People with migraines don't have any obvious injuries either but does that mean their head doesn't hurt? What are people with severe body-wide pain SUPPOSED to look like? Just because someone in pain made the tremendous effort to take a shower, do their hair, put on some makeup and wear decent clothes (all of which took about 3 hours with frequent rest breaks and a significant amount of pain medication to accomplish), that's supposed to mean they feel fine? I'm often tempted to go to church or some other event without a shower, with my hair a tangled mess, no makeup, wearing grubby clothes, no jewelry--whatever it takes to look as bad as I feel. Would that make others take my pain seriously? It sounds like you're a guy so the no makeup thing probably wouldn't make a difference.:-) But you could try going to your next doctor's appointment doing your best to look as bad as you feel and see if your doc get's the message! I have a friend who is dealing with her 3rd bout of cancer and this time. She looks great, has a nice figure (reconstructed breasts), good color, her hair has grown back and she's always dressed in cute clothes with her makeup done. Does this mean she's not sick and in pain? Actually, she needs to take daily pain medication and she's terminal--has maybe 5 years to live. You'd better believe no one, including her doctors, is telling her that she can't be that sick because she "looks good." "Looking good" is not an accurate measure of how one feels. When will doctors and people in general get that through their heads? I don't know but it's frustrating and unfair and, what's more, it leaves people with invisible disabilities and invisible pain suffering unnecessarily. My heart goes out to you.
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Jdhoss Says:
So true I was hit by a truck at 45+ mph I severed knee. broke 18 bones m,my back,three skull fractures and massive brain damage... I was a high end collage athlete at the time..my doc would barly give me 4/ 10 mg norco because of all the a**holes that abuse oc..after two years in a hospital bed I am back on my feet after 9 surgery s I look still look very fit but can barley walk..because I look so healthy even the doc says you look amazing you can't be in that much pain...it's so wrong to assume someone is not in pain just cuz they don't look hurt!! Even my best friend think that all cuz I look healthier then them but truth be told I can't even walk my dogs around the block without having to spend the whole next in bed on ice.. Sorry for the bad grammar as I said I have a bad head injury
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Red Man Says:
The best post on here that's exactly how it is.
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Cynthia Says:
To ATC: What the heck is "fibromyalsia"? Do you mean fibromyalgia? I think I've managed to get past the mess of your spelling and finally figured out what you're trying to say, although I can't figure out to whom you're responding. While I know it's frustrating to a genuine pain patient to have the abusers making it difficult for us to get the pain relief we truly need, you've also done what many people do in judging the pain level of someone you don't even know and in assuming that you know what medications and how much of them another suffering person needs. Your statement that someone on 30 "mil" of Oxycontin has been abusing for a long time is completely off-base. (Oxycontin doesn't come in "mil" (milliliters) since it's not a liquid; it comes in "mg"--milligrams.) I've been a fibromyalgia patient with severe pain for 20 years; the first 8, I had NO pain control (and Motrin or any OTC med didn't do a thing!) My doctor at the time then started me on Oxycontin which finally gave me relief, though I was furious to realize that I'd suffered so badly all that time when such relief was available. I continued to titrate up until I found the level that allows me to live normally--not pain-free but at least with my pain controlled reasonably well. For that to happen, my current doctor raised my dose until I was at the level I take now--240 mg per day (four 60 mg pills per day.) I have been at this dose for many years now with no increase needed, no euphoria, no highs, no living in "la-la" land, etc. I just feel normal. Don't assume you know what someone else's pain level is, don't assume you know what will alleviate their pain and certainly don't assume that everyone on a high dose of legal narcotics is an abuser. I have always used Oxycontin and any other meds for breakthrough pain "by the book" and they have given me my life back. Again, I know it's frustrating to watch the laws regarding narcotics cater to abusers rather than genuine pain patients but I also get frustrated by people, especially amateurs, who think they're more knowledgeable than they are.
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Cynthia Says:
Hey, Ryan, no problem! You're right about spell check--you really can't ever trust it! Who can keep all those "...codone's" straight anyway?! All the best to you!
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ATC Says:
For some nasty back pain???? How about motrin and put up with the back. I have 7 herniated disks degen of disk and joint Osteoporosis fibromialsia etc and never abise my meds if you take 30 mil of oxycontin you have been abusing for a long time . You relize you guys make it extremley hard for those of us wnho are mangled and falling apart slowly. If you need meds get them prescibbed dont kill yourself on accident because you have no idea how mefs work. Because it tightens rules on thpse of us who have to live thi s every day
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Ryan Says:
Thanks babe darn spell check
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Ryan Says:
Only take the medication you are prescribed and only medicate as directed. The two drugs have different opiate base so they synthesize differently in the kidneys. It all depends on the type of drug test used and the NG cut off. The opiate base in oxycotin and oxycodone are so similar it is common to have a false positive for either drug. Hydrocodone is also common to bring up a false positive for oxycotin, but not oxycodone hydrochloride. The only true way to determine which drug is which is by lab testing
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Sunny Says:
I'm seeing a pain mgmt Dr. he rx me Norco 5-325mg. and Robaxin 750mg. I took an Oxycotin today and smoked 2 hits of a joint 3 days ago. The pain was so sever It was take an old Oxycotin and try the pot or go to the ER, where they give you a pain shot, and let you go home. ER also costs alot of money. I have a urine test with my Dr. tomarrow 8am. Will The pot show up, it's been 5 days and I smoke cigarettes. Will the Oxy show up as hydrocodone? Any thelp and suggestions how to get them out of my sysytem by tomarrow are helpfull. I just couldn't take the pain any longer. Dr. made me sign an agreement I would take anything other than what he Rx. After seeking help from several Dr.'s that said my case was way too extensive for them. They would do nothing. The pain mgmt. Dr. is my last resort. I'm not a druggy. Please help. Thank YOU. from Sunny
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lalya Says:
if i crush up my prescription oxycotin and put it in my urine sample for a drug test, will the oxy show up in my urine when my docter tests it,
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Olivia Says:
To JAX - I'm curious as to why you only have 2 days of your pain medication left when it sounds like you should have at least 14 days left. It sounds like you've been taking much more than you've been prescribed. I don't mean to be critical. If you haven't been prescribed sufficient pain medication and you're suffering, it's really tempting to take what you actually NEED rather than limiting yourself to the dosage a doctor thinks SHOULD help. It really sounds like you need to have a firm conversation with your pain doc regarding the fact that you're still in serious pain which is unacceptable. If he/she is more interested in (again) what dose SHOULD be enough by-the-book rather than giving you the amount that will actually bring you relief--you need a different doctor! I went 5 years taking Oxycontin in an amount that eased only SOME of my pain only SOME of the time. Then we moved to another state and I got a new doc. When I told him that I was beside myself with pain because what I was taking just didn't cut it, he said, "It sounds like you're just not getting enough" and increased my dosage. I've been on that same dose now for 5 years (no increases) and have been able to lead a more functional life than I had for the 15 years prior to hiring him as my doctor. For a pain doctor to leave you in so much pain that you find yourself tempted to take more meds than you're prescribed is unethical and violates the Hippocratic oath--to "first do no harm"! My best wishes as you seek adequate pain control.
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Marjorie Says:
Or if you're me, and thankfully your pain doctor and staff trust you and the opinion of your referring primary care physician... I metabolism things twice as fast as most people. Anything I consume (I don't mean in a calorie/fat burning way - things move and are excreted through my system, often failing to absorb fully, before they're gone). I've shown none of my pain meds in my system the day after I've taken them, but thankfully they don't think it's a problem... But then again I feel really comfortable with everyone there, and the doctor referring me gave me a really good recommendation. Just saying, the levels should be good for 99% of people, the ranges that they test for I mean.... but there is always the odd man out lol. I have to take anything extended release, twice in the same day or it doesn't show up in my system the next day (not just pain meds, anything). I'm actually trying to figure out what causes my body to do this and other things with a neuropsychiatrist.
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jax Says:
I have chronic pain and am with a pain management doc and I have to take a ua at my next appointment in 14days I only have 2 days left of Percocet 10/325 if I save those 2 days worth will my ua show my levels as directed by my doc I am hoping it will show I have been taking the correct dose will it?
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Elly Says:
I hate the way they treat people in pain. I waited 11 months to get into the pain program that is part of my county health plan and I was fully honest with what I was taking on my first appointment and hoping that I would finally get out of the pain I was in and when it came to prescirbe my meds the young man that exaimined me and told me I may have even more wrong then the severe facet hypertrophy, degenerative disc disease in all disk. He said I may also have an issue with my hips as well. Right now I am on Norco 325's, Soma and neurontin. I was prescribed 12 Norco's a day by 2 different doctors but I was up front with the one that added the extra four. the one that gave me 8 could only do that for 1 year as I was no longer a patient with that insurance so i had that filled at 1 pharmacy who only charged charged $23.00 for the rx. I had also been prescribed Opana ER 40 mg 8 a day but that I had to stop that one because it would have costed more then $2000.00 a month. anyway I also got all my other meds filled with the county pharmacy for free and then about a month after my original rx for the norco had stopped due to being a year without the insurance, I had a tooth break in my mouth and I went to my dentist who understands my money situation and after he examined and learned that I had infection and pain he sent an rx to the pharmacy he likes to use. the pain meds he sent was norco 5/325 which is half as strong and didn't even give me enough for a day compared to what I take and he prescribed an antibiotic which I needed. so I picked up that rx. anyway because I had used 3 pharmacies over the last year, the lady in charge of the pain clinic came in and told me she will not prescribe me ANY Narcotics at all. I had been on some form of narcotics for my legitimate pain for 9 years and I only had a few left so I went to a methadone clinic 2 days later to detox. they would not detox me but sent a referral back to the pain management clinic asking them to reconsider treating me. I am still waiting for the answer. In the mean time I am IN PAIN. this system sucks. People like Nichole Smith and Michael Jackson ODing has caused people to break out of the humanity roll of prescribing pain meds again.
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Duttchez Says:
Hello I wud like to know how to bypass it as well if that's ok.... I have a friend that was just askn sum1 that same question...
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Shawn Says:
I was just at the doctors office and they took a swab of my mouth to ake sure im taking my meds. I had run out of them so it wouldnt of been in my system so I ate one. Will it come up on the swab test if I ate one just before they did it?
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Olivia Says:
Hello, Lucy! You are so right! Without a doubt, one of the worst enemies of the legitimate chronic pain patient is the drug abuser. Without the abusers, there would have have been no need to alter the formulation of Oxycontin, thereby creating yet one more problem for patients who are already suffering . It drives me crazy to see how many websites are devoted to drug abusers/addicts giving information on ways to misuse narcotics, as though they're providing a great service by sharing their "tips." It's unfortunate that pharmaceutical companies and the FDA put the welfare of abusers before that of legitimate pain patients.
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Lucy Says:
Sorry but you can blame the drug addicts that misuse oxycontin for the change in the drug form. They had to start making them so that they can only be consumed as intended, orally.
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