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MaC686 Says:
 
I have a serious problem. My dr. had two patients start dr. shopping and has decided it is too big of a pain in his butt to continue prescribing, even though I have gotten MRIs and Xrays to prove my problems. I have over a half a dozen herniated discs in my low back, along with degenerative disc disease, spinal stenosis, scoliosis and arthritis in my facet joints. I am currently on5 30mg oxycodone a day for breakthrough and 60mg of methadone for my long lasting meds. I REALLY need a doctor in the Denver, CO area who will not judge me because of my age, thinking I'm just some drug seeker as I TRULY need my meds to function. I am even being placed on disability until I can get my back healed because if something doesn't change I will be in big time pain for the rest of my life. If ANYONE knows of a good doctor that prescribes strong meds willingly in the Denver area please email me and let me know. I am in desperate need of help as I am going to be SCREWED if I cannot find a good doctor. SOMEONE please help me with a doctor!!!!!

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Very Chatty Sarah Says:
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I too tried methadone. I was put on 5mg 3 times a day to help my morphine and oxycodone last longer and cut back my tolerance. At 5mg I felt nothing at 10 mg it was horrible. Headaches, constipation unlike anything morphine did to me, even Amitiza 24mcg 2 times a day did nothing. Lactulose, helped but the headaches were turning into migraines and I put my foot down with a never again.
Later I wanted off opioids so badly and my RA was not horrible but that effort landed me on suboxone for pain (off label) as opposed to abuse. I find it funny dependency vs addiction in real life is used to speak of us chronic pain peeps, but for insurance and regulated drugs dependency Is the term for addiction. Anyway, the suboxone is ok for pain so we're going to try the butran patch with suboxone for breakthrough pain and of course my trusty ritalin that has been not only a pain killer, but a quality of life saviour. I just hope that I don't have to go to methadone for pain or morphine should the new doc not work out or is anti-off-label. I'll live sans ritalin, but until we find a RA treatment that works I'll need pain relief. If this just approved one doesn't work I'll have to wait for the next approved biologic.
A bit off topic, sorry!
I wonder if we can start a Colorado Thread or a regional board. Would you guys participate? I could always ask the owner, he has been stellar with my other questions. :)

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JaneyGirl Says:
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CPR is worth it! They r kind and compassionate! Although the $225 sounds expensive, they unfortunately are the "best deal" in town! The staff is friendly, helpful and knowledgable!
MAC, I'm thrilled to hear u r doing better! Hopefully, when this "health care crisis" moves on, they will allow better pain management and approve some of the new drugs they have been working on! I've been thinking of u! If u have a chance, write me privately! Take good care!

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sara Says:
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A 5150 is a term used in the California community for a 3 day psych. Hold. I don't remember what the Colorado code is.

A hospital or doctor can do this if a patient is actively suicidal in order to stabilize them.

They can't 5150 a person for drug use alone. One must express or demonstrate active suicidal language or behavior.

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kuaka Says:
 
What is a 5120? Doctor shopping?

I'm still new to the whole pain management stuff...but I tell you, I'd rather be on Morphine and Codeine than use alcohol at the level I used to. When I reached 51, the age my brother drank himself to death (he was a rheumatoid arthritis sufferer...bad enough it discharged him from the Navy), I decided to give it a go.

If you have trouble, I highly recommend that you try various things until you find something that helps. My breakthrough is Fiorinal-3, which is a codiene pill with aspirin. I have found tylenol based pills to be totally useless, but the aspirin/codiene combination seems to work fairly well. Fiorianl-3 also has Butarol, so it may cause drowsiness (not for me). It has caffiene to help counter that. You have to suggest it to your doctor, as it is old school and went out of common use 30 years ago. When I was asking my doctor for breakthrough medicine, he suggested the usual modern ones (none of which have ever worked for me). He then asked if I had any suggestions. I had no idea at the time what was in Fiorinal-3, but I had it 30 years ago after a tooth extraction and it worked very well so I suggested it. He wrote the scrip and here I am. I need to actually visit with him before my next refill, so I'll be scheduling said visit soon. My trouble is that my doctor is in Kansas and I'm in Colorado (temporary work). Not just Kansas, but as far away from here as you can get and still be in Kansas...some 700 miles by road. I might just fly, but I don't know where to park my RV while I'm gone.

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Fuzzy Says:
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Also, I can't take Morphine Sulfate tabs, tried recently and it gave me this insane stomach pain. I have a lap band & no gallbladder, from what I read this is a common side effect. Some type of stomach spasms. I don't want to do Methadone because of the problems it can cause with the heart so I really don't know what my options will be. I had a fentanyl patch after surgery before, is that intended for long term pain? Anyway, I'm just nervous about my visit because of the stigma some doctors have with people who are younger thst have pain problems :(

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Fuzzy Says:
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1st appt at CPR is going to be $225! Is it really worth this kind of money? Are they compassionate and understanding? Just concerned that it's a lot of money to spend for very little medication. This will be my 1st pain management doctor ever, my PCP referred me since he would only give Percocet 10 and it seemed to not help much anymore.


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Wendy Says:
 
Rainbow ,my friends go to kaiser Westminster and their anti OxyContin becareful asking for it .Have you tried the fenytenal patch ?

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JaneyGirl Says:
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Mac, It's so good to hear how u r doing! R u happy where u r now or still need some work to b done yet? I know how frustrated u have been, been with u since the beginning of your thread! I finally feel like I'm on the right road! The medical system right now is so very poor! Hospitals seem to just put band aids on issues with no real care of what's going on! This does nothing but drives costs up! My stomach issues which I've been hospitalized for at least monthly and of course now have the hashtag of "drug seeker" even without ever filling their prescriptions, ended up being a chronic infection from the broken teeth from my cardiac arrest! With not knowing if your provider is going to even b in business the next month and the poor level of care, they wonder why they have issues? My husband was admitted this past week with seizures, up to 20+ a day, was in ICU with the worst care I have ever seen! He laid in urine for over two hours while his nurse argued with another nurse who was going to lunch first! Unfortunately, I'm finding we aren't the only ones with issues. The whole darn system is a mess! I'm also pretty frustrated with many of the communications occurring here! Seems to b a lot of trading info on who gives the best drugs rather than your intent of finding good medical care, supporting one another and giving suggestions that have helped each one of us! Like u felt a few month's ago, when u were frustrated about having to repeat yourself over and over again, I feel the same way! I think the issue is we aren't giving them the answers to what they really want! I want to b clear, there still r many that need the help but it's pretty clear there's a bunch of drug seeking going on! If we can see it from their posts, it's pretty obvious a doc can see it a mile away! I get called a drug seeker when I'm needing phenergan, imagine what's happening with them! I'm just grateful that I've finally found a primary care doc that won't stop until she has answers and the guys at CPR! Although not by any stretch pain free, step by step I'm able to get out of the house and doing things that only used to b a memory of what I was! I've thought and prayed for u often and hope from the bottom of my heart u r doing better! You have given a great deal of yourself to help others, you should b proud but more importantly be able to enjoy your life! Take care my friend!

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MAC686 Says:
 
I'm always still in pain but I have found that Methadone and Oxycodone IR manage it the best. It's strange others get so drowsy from methadone because I don't. I would try Oxycontin but I don't have name brand coverage. But I still like switching back to methadone every once in a while no matter what I'm on to lower my tolerance. I've found that's the best way.

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tammy Says:
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I tried methadone and ended up at the hospital. But everyone reacts different so if anything try it and if its bad then you can cross it off too.

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Lizzie Says:
 
Thank you all for having the courage to share your stories. It is often like reading versions of my own life story. Long story short, I have suffered from chronic and debilitating migraines for over 12 years...in conjunction with spinal stenosis of the upper c-spine. I have had xrays, CAT scans, MRIs and sleep studies. I have been on EVERY prophylactic and migraine med on the market, not to mention off label meds like topomax (which has a legal suit pending fyi) and depakote. I was on fioricet for a while which helped alot at first but then its effect on me became a huge problem as others were thinking I was drunk (I do not drink alcohol..ever. I finally got true relief when I was put on a regimen of oxycontin 80s and oxycodone 30s. A sprinkle of soma and xanax to help relax the muscles responsible for the migraines (they think) and my pain level was at a 2 most days. When the oxycontins changed to the OP my stomach couldn't tolerate it so I switched to MSContin (Morphine E/R) and that seems to be almost as effective (but not quite).Admittedly I was on high doses (3 100 mg Morphine and 10 30mg if oxy for breakthrough. Occasionally I would switch my short acting to dilaudid just to give my tolerance a shakeup. I tried Opanas and I might as well have taken Tylenol. A year or so ago, I decided to wean myself down because I was feeling so great...I had hopes that perhaps I didnt need the meds any more. While I have been blessed with a high tolerance to pain, I have been cursed with a high tolerance to meds...even novacaine at the dentist! Well, big mistake. My migraines returned with a vengeance and I was literally bed ridden for 4 months. I realized that I needed the meds to function....hell, to keep from being homeless if you want the truth. So a year a half ago, I embarked on a mission to find an understanding pain doc who would get me back to living with a 2 and not the 8 or 9 I was currently experiencing. Not so easy, as you all know. Oh and no medical insurance. So I would visit doc after doc (cash paying all the way) and even when on the phone they said the doc prescribed pain meds..most looked at me like I was an addict. No way could a woman who weighs 100 lbs survive on that amount let alone function. Most were comfortable keeping me at my morphine level, but most prescribed very few oxys for breakthrough pain.

One doc wanted to put me on percocet (the first rule of chronic pain management...no meds with tylenol!) so I continued on my way. I even drove to Longmont,paid $300, from Littleton, only to find that the doc wouldn't prescribe after being told on the phone he did.Another doctor was very understanding, or so I thought, and prescribed me some short acting. The plan was to do facet IV's..they do them right at their office and as I discovered later there is no proof that facet IV's have ANY benefit at all yet have become the bread and butter of many a pain management practice. Btw, this information I received from a physician who had his doctorate in pain management. He even went so far as to tell me he'd be afraid for me to have the IV's since I am so small framed. As it turned out, my insurance denied the IV's and lo and behold, my doc suddenly wanted to wean me off my meds and ultimately put me on suboxone. Last I heard, suboxone has no benefit for pain. Her attitude toward me changed over night even though I had followed her costly recommendation by seeing a psychologist AND a psychiatrist (she believes that most chronic pain sufferers have had traumatic childhoods (my childhood was great and the psychologist did not agree with her theory anyway.Thats when I found this board and thank God I did. Thank you Mac. Both my boyfriend and I go where you go and so far so great. It is a bit far, a bit pricey but worth it in the end. Well worth it. I do have Medicaid but yet to find a good pain doc that also takes Medicaid. I'm up to 4 oxys a day now. I admit 10 a day was a bit too much, but 6-8 would be perfect for me and allow me to live with a 2 level of pain. Now Im living at a 4 and after a year and a half of barely functioning I can live with a 4. This thread was a time and money saver..a true life saver.

Thank you MAC. In return I offer everyone else out there a hidden treasure. Mapleton Pain Clinic in Boulder ...while it may be far (50 minutes from Littleton)..they truly understand chronic pain and the fact that most of us do not want to be medicated but have no choice and have come to this conclusion after trying everything else. 303-441-0506 I don't know if things have changed for new patients but I found them to be understanding, caring and non-judgmental. A friend of mine goes there and she has Medicaid. Not sure if they are taking new Medicaid patients. And sometimes there's a waiting list to get in so if you are interested, act fast. Get them a referral and a copy of the last 3-6 months of patient notes, in addition to any lab results you may have. Once again, thank you Mac and to all of you who took the time to help others out even when you yourselves already had a good situation. I was hesitant to share this oft-unknown hidden treasure for chronic pain sufferers but I didn't want to be that person who could have helped even one person and didn't. I wish I could still go there but I relinquished my driving privileges (God forbid something happens and Im driving..and pain meds come up on my drug panel) and there is no public transportation from here to there. All I ask,,if any of you do go there, please share with us your experience. Again, follow the rules and you'll be golden. My prayers and thoughts are with you all as you walk (or stumble) down this horrible road of chronic pain. I would not wish it on my worst enemy..oh and to miss the joys of being accused (outwardly or by mannerisms) of being a drug addict..who doesn't love that?? I am a middle-aged mother of 3 grown children, grandmother of one, an accountant. I need high doses of meds that might kill another, but if you didn't know I was a chronic pain sufferer. you would never know I was on daily doses of narcotics. They give me the ability to function...at work, at home, as a Mother and most importantly, as a Grandmother. My sister, Rest In Peace, took her own life 6 years ago as a result of the chronic, severe pain she could no longer live with. No one should have to be put in that situation. But, I bet all of you on this board can empathize. Lets make sure no one here has to ever cross that bridge. I still feel the pain of losing her every day, although I can not be angry because I know where my own thoughts were during that dark period when I couldn't find relief. I do not believe in the act itself, but unbearable, nonstop pain is such a huge burden on us and those who love us.Here's to things changing so that doctors can once again prescribe without fear of retribution and us chronic pain sufferers can live life the way its supposed to be lived.

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Nicki Says:
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I use to be on the same dose, then they added oxycontin. Have you tried those b4? They work great. If they continue the percs and add oxy 10-20's then that gives u more time to increase the oxy dosage.

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rainbowflowers Says:
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Thanks girls I wil be doin those suggestions and I have no issues wit wat im on now and been on its percocet 10mg/325 they wk ok im happy im able 2 go things n nt be so grumpy n tired from pain I no its nt a high dose of meds like other ppl are on but my dr is concern cuz im at tha max dose but I dnt always take tha max dose

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Nicki Says:
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Rain, i forgot to answer your question about your dr. He should have no reason to stop perscribing just because you say no. But you do need to explain how the thought of taking Methadone is scaring you. Is there a drug that wirks good for you? If so ask if you can take that instead. Hopefully it all works out for you.

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Nicki Says:
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Rain, i have never taken methadone but i have seen how people react to it. They tend to be very tired, they move slowly, slur their speech. They look all messed up like they are high. They say it helps with the pain, but they say all they do is sleep. If you work i wouldnt take those. Hope that helps you.

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sara Says:
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Rain-its possible but not likely if you approach it correctly. Take a list of side effects...The biggest one is CRAZY drowsiness!

I fell asleep at dinner, while cooking and burned pots on the minimum dose. I was useless...I tried it a month as suggested and quit flat.

If you have to drive yourself or especially children around, share that you're very, very fearful about safety. You don't want to fall asleep at the wheel. It's dangerous.

Share that you would be SO AFRAID to take them....

Your doctor will probably back off of the idea.

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rainbowflowers Says:
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So I still looking for some help or advice from anyone.My dr wants 2 do a trail run on methadone I did a trail run of morphine and had a really bad allergic reaction I dnt wanna do methadone can my dr stop seein me or givin my meds if I say no 2 methadone??

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JaneyGirl Says:
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Jose Vasquez is also a Licensed Psychotherapist which is a HUGE help with pain folks and the issues we go through!

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sara Says:
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Sarah-i was there long ago. They're very holistic, but kind and non-judgmental.

I had an adult student who they had to send out on a 5150. They treated her with dignity in a very undignified situation...

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rainbowflowers Says:
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Rebajam u better call dr shaw office 1st and see if he will see u cuz if u make a apt with dr shaw they may think u tryin 2 get pain meds from him 2 and they cld cut u off becareful..I did wat PA THERESA told me 2 do with all my referrals like she wanted me 2 then all hell broke loose

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