Big Pharma's Lockdown On Legitimate Chronic Pain Patients (Page 5)

Is narcotic pain medicine becoming a thing of the past?

Why are doctors across America phasing out the practice of prescribing effective pain medication?

Will big pharmaceutical companies ever truly understand what it's like to face the other side of the coin?

Lately there's been a musty scent in the air surrounding the use of prescribed narcotic pain medication. Many doctors appear to be running scared as the DEA scours through fields of medical records, inspecting prescribing pads like a mouse scavenges for food in a dimly lit cellar.

Should the day come when doctors recommend Ibuprofen to a feeble man who's been involved in a terrible car accident (breaking several bones / requiring extensive surgery), is this doctor at risk of malpractice when there are more effective options available that they choose not to pick, out of fear? Fear of what? Doing the right thing? No, I don't think this is the reason... Somewhere along the line, in the not too distant past, doctors were loosely prescribing narcotic pain medication as if it would never go out of style. Nowadays, the harsh penalty of potentially losing their license for writing any unknown number of opiate prescriptions over so many calendar days or some other form of strict criteria, has been enough to prevent many physicians from taking even subtle "risks" with patients who are expressing obvious signs of pain and discomfort.

The unfortunately unique problem with pain is that it's not a physical object and in order for others to detect it, they'd have to rely solely on the backbone of our body language using their intuition - something that's gone missing in western practice. If more doctors took the time and really got to know their patients front to back, then they will be their own best judge of deciding what the right thing to do is, regardless of what the DEA thinks about their decision or what their drug representative wants out of the deal. Sadly, until patients are put before profits, the foundation of America's healthcare system remains in jeopardy like an iceberg affected by global warming.

While I believe that the vast majority of human beings in their right mind would choose to do the right thing, we must all work together to become the change we wish to see within every aspect of our lives; and knowing that by doing so, it will shine light on those crossing our path that need it most.

In the meantime, some patients may have to find another way to manage their pain without putting their life or health at risk. Others are turning to natural alternatives such as kratom, cannabis, turmeric and/or implementing various lifestyle changes into their daily regime... But the key is to never give up hope.

What will you do?

Warm regards to all who face life's challenges head on.

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Re: Tommy (# 80)

hi Tommy, I have a few of those U17 I refuse to take. If you can give me a link on the forms to fill out, I will donate my pills.

Paul

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Re: Paul (# 81)

Paul google FDA and then click on to the complaint link and fill the form out, it's pretty easy but takes a little time. I'm hoping more ppl see this that are having problems with their generic medicine and fill out these forms too. FDA said if we get enough complaints we have no choice but to start an investigation but being the government that might not be telling the truth but maybe they might get a batch of these toxic generics and get sick like the rest of us so fill those forms out

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Re: Joann from Portland Oregon (# 79)

Joann, that's a very good idea if the ones who haven't been cut off weren't afraid to stand up. I guarantee if we all did that in each clinic and stopped using the pharmacies they would be forced to stop this! I'm thinking there's got to be a good lawyer who can maybe start legal suits for Drs failing to treat patients with pain and diagnosing them with chronic long-term pain. In my opinion, it would seem a Dr couldn't just diagnose you with that and keep you for years then cut you off. You're not cured! There's got to be a law! I've signed everything I've seen. This is our lives and we have a right to protest! Also, the ones who overdosed ...families sued Drs & if they told the truth over half of these people mixed and/or used ILLICIT drugs. I never dreamed we as Americans would be treated so inhumanely! If any of you have any more links you need to share just post it and maybe we can send them to everyone and also keep all social media going!

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Re: Joann from Portland Oregon (# 79)

We need a private institute malpractice legal suit against the drs and fda separately. Go for the medical board of each state for not making drs not do no harm..... They either harmed by overprescribing in the first place or when they stopped prescribing without proper weaning to prevent withdrawal, pushing patients to govt advertised illicit drugs.... Those who know what I mean and I am not telling those that dont... Be well.

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I think the reason that pain meds are so hard to get is because first of all what most doctors and the DEA don't know is that pain meds are not a deterrent to pain. In other words, pain meds are strictly to get rid of current pain. Taking pain meds in order to keep the pain from happening doesn't work. If you take pain meds everyday 2 things will happen. 1. You will build up a tolerance for that med and 2. The euphoria will no longer be there. If in fact, you pay attention to your pain, you will find that the euphoria may not come but the pain will be decreased. If you are truly in pain even though the euphoria is gone, the pain med will work by addressing the pain. What most people think is that the euphoria has to be there for the pain med to work. This is not true. I have been on pain meds for 14 years -- I do not take them everyday. There is no euphoria to these meds for me anymore. I take them about 8 days a month, but the meds do address the pain. Pain meds by themselves will never prevent pain from happening. At least this has been the case for me. If I take the meds everyday then they become less effective. You have to get to the root of your pain -- inflammation, broken bones, in my case pyloric spasm. In my case, thoradol and promethazine help with everyday symptoms.

However with the new ideas about medication even these drugs which are not opioids have become a problem when it comes to getting a prescription. What I see happening is take the meds away and let the patient figure out how to deal with their medical situation by yourself. As we patients have not been trained in medicine and cannot write scripts, dealing with chronic pain is simply impossible. No one understands this better than those of you who visit this site. Doctors need to step up to the plate and figure out what they can prescribe to replace the opioids if that is not an option. And I am not talking about dangerous drugs such as Neurontin. Nerve killers such as these are not investigated to the extent that they should be. A doctor who prescribed this for me told me flat out that this drug kills nerves and when asked how does the drug know which nerve to kill -- he wasn't sure if the drug could identify which nerve was the problem. Needless to say, I quit taking it immediately. We need to form some type of group and approach the DEA and demand answers. I am not sure how to do this but I believe it is one way we might actually be heard. My email is {edited for privacy} if you have any ideas on this.

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Re: Joann from Portland Oregon (# 85)

you are not suposed to feel a euphoria if you do you took to much or the dr cripted the wrong medicine or dosage ..... i have been on pain meds since june of 2000 and before that i suffered and had to change occupations twice due to dehabilatating pain.....i have been on same meds for at least 3 years and have declined increases ....... am i still in pain yes i am but i can walk which according to my docter back in 2003 i shouldnt be able too according to my mri ... maybe if your drug store keeps switching brands on you you may have gotten good ones then the ones that dont work as well ... could been your issue but i do not accept other brands i change stores when they change brands......... so unless over take n meds you should not build up a major resistance to them ...... not taking them everyday does not mean that on otherdays that to many are not taken ..... you are not supposed to get a high (euphoria) that is a sign of taking to many ....... if someone has real dehabilating pain no amount of drugs will eliminate the pain completly ..... thats part of the problem ... the expectation of no pain is not realistic and increasing meds because of expecting no pain will lead to issues with your prescriber ..... and loss of service .... pain meds are too make you be able to function not pain free ...... may good things come your way

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Re: Roro (# 86)

It's not that easy to just change your drugstore where I'm from. It takes an act of Congress to just go to another drugstore. They will turn you down and give you that look. Maybe where you live but not me. I've been taking Percocet 10mg generic for 8 months because of a neck injury from a car accident and when I got Rhodes Pharmaceuticals Percocet it was like taking nothing & also toxic. It's not even the strength of an Advil. I want what my doc prescribed me not what the drugstore wants me to take because they are making a bigger profit on Rhodes Medication. I'm not taking them for the euphoria -that's been long gone, I just can't stand the pain. Not everyone is out to feel high. I just take one when the pain returns. And if others are also getting sick too from this medication then what do we do? I pay for the doctor, drugstore etc and I get a toxic medicine that only makes me sick from Rhodes Pharmaceuticals. Pay to vomit with cramps & migraine? I don't think so! I'll keep on Rhodes until they tell me what's in their medication that's making me sick. Plus the FDA said they are going to send their medication to their lab because of all the complaints. So you're lucky if ur getting medication that doesn't make you sick. If your drugstore has Rhodes medicine think twice before you take it.

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Re: Tommy (# 87)

In my state you have to go to the same pharmacy it is the law. Only way you are excused from this is if they cannot fill your script but then you have to go to another pharmacy in the chain.

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Re: Roro (# 86)

That is true. I always get switched from manufacturers. They don't work as well when i do. Pain is something i have to live with and it will never go away completely as long as I am able to do what i have to do i am thankful.

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Re: MacTurk (# 1)

I feel the same. I've been taking 180 Norco 10 for 3yrs now. I take them 1 every 4hrs. I don't abuse them. Once in a while I have to take an extra half of one but I got permission to take that half when needed. I am like you, I will be bedridden if I didn't have them. I have to take a drug panel every 2 months to make sure I am taking them. I don't know what I'd do if I was cut off from them completely. My state won't ever legalize marijuana. If they do I'd try it to get off all of these pain pills but without them I'd be really messed up. I couldn't stay in bed all the time. Those docs got me to taking them but nothing was working before! What are we supposed to do?

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TO all...please read this, it might include you...

Well, here we go....Big Brother has started his s***... Below is a copied and pasted article from another discussion thread here about a person that OD'd and of course the blame is on the medicine. BUT in this case it could be. I think some of the people in this forum were taking these including me.

"I got a report to read from the FDA sent from the DEA on generic Percocet from a friend's family member that works for the FDA. The report said that in their discussions they came up with a plan to stop people from dying from overdoses & addiction. Said Generic Percocet is the most abused medicine on the market. They have in place a 20% tolerance on generic pain medication and they deemed this wasn't helping the abuse of Percocet. People have been complaining in the thousands about Rhodes Pharmaceuticals and others not putting the correct amount of opioid in generic Percocet plus it seems to be making people sick. In the report not only are they decreasing the 20%, but also adding 50% to the 20% so you're getting 70% less of the active ingredient in Rhodes/Purdue Pharmac..."

Source: Percocet Generic Report On Phasing Out Opioids By The Year 2021

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Re: Paul (# 81)

We can't post links on here. So go to fda dot gov, and the Report a Problem link is on the front page.

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Re: Goatc (# 88)

Goatc, please post a link to your state law requiring using the same pharmacy.

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Re: Bull (# 90)

My doctor did some paperwork to get me the yellow Norco 10s and I promise you there is a difference between the 0u3 Norco and the yellow Norco. I could tell the difference right off the bat - as soon as I started taking the yellow I've not got the drag butt anymore and they last longer. I promise. I am so glad they changed my prescription to the yellow. It's like daylight an dark. I've been on the Norco for over 3yrs now an I complained to my doctor about the ou3 and they changed my prescription.

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Re: Bull (# 94)

How & What did the Dr change because every pharmacist tell me the white are the only ones because they are starting to take the dye out of them,which I didn't believe. They just will not be honest about it. I had taken the yellow 10/325 for the last 6-7 years. The white ones only made me sick. Please let me know....Thanks in advance.

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Re: Goatc (# 88)

It's the same in my state too about always using the same pharmacy. The only time you can use a different one is if your normal pharmacy does not have tour type of meds. I live in PA.

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Re: Red (# 95)

He changed my prescription to yellow the pharmacist is the one who gave me the prescription I gave it to my doctor an he set it up for me to get the yellow ones I just told him the ou3 takin 9 days to start working I was so much pain for those 9days that how long I takin for the ou3 to start to work an I explained it to the doctor an he said he would fix it an he did

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Re: Bull (# 97)

Wow,Thanks! I am on the other side,the pharmacist is the one that told me they were fading out the yellow ones. But I will look into it more.

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They have to have something to take the place of opioid pain medication. It's like Obamacare, the GOP has to have something as good or better to replace it with & they don't. Ppl are making a stand, seems they can't drop opioids until they have something as good or better. Surgery, accidents, etc. no pain meds we stopped making them but we have some whiskey & a bullet

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Re: BL (# 93)

I will as soon as i find it. My dr made me sign a contract and that was on it. I live in Massachusetts and they are making of us do this.

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