Advice On Hospitals That Hate Addicts

I JUST WENT TO THE HOSPITAL FOR A STAFF INFECTION AND THE HOSPITAL PUT ME ON 1MG OF DALAUDID EVERY THREE HOURS AND A 30 MG ROXYCOTIN EVERY FOUR HOURS... I WAS THERE A WEEK AND HAD A SURGERY THAT ENTITTLED SOME PAINFUL PROCEDURES SUCH AS A CENTRAL LINE PREFORMED WHILE I WAS AWAKE.. NOW I WAS ALREADY ON ROXY COTIN EVERY 6 HOURS AT HOME SO DOING THE UPGRADE DID NOTHING FOR ME FOR THE PAIN CAUSED BY 2SLIPPED DISCS AND DEGENERATIVE DISC DEIEASE.... THE PROBLEM: WHEN I LEFT THE HOSPITAL THEY CUT ME OFF ALL MEDICATION AND GAVE ME ABSOLUTLY NOTHING TO GO HOME WITH... WOW.. ALL THE NURSES ACTED STUPID AND ALL THE DOCTORS TOLD ME THAT I NEED TO JUST BASICALLY DEAL WITH IT. i WAS LUCKY I HAD ONE PRESCRIPTION LEFT FROM MY PRIMARY DOCTOR FOR NINETY 30 MG ROXYCOTINS BUT AFTER THAT I AM IN THE DARK OF WHAT TO DO. ALL MY PAIN MEDICATIONS HAVE BEEN FROM HOSPITALS, SO IF I GO TO A PAIN DOCTOR NOW, THEY SAY IVE BEEN PRESCRIBED THE MEDICATION BY TOO MANY DOCTORS THOUGH THEIR ALL FROM HOSPITAL SURGERYS ON MY BACK SO THEIR WOULD BE DIFFERENT DOCTORS... HOW DO I GO ABOUT GETTING A PAIN MANAGMENT DOCTOR... I HAVE A CAT SCAN SAYING HOW BAD MY BACK IS AND THE SURGERY REPORTS BUT THE PHARMACY REPORTS HAVE LISTED THE DIFFERENT DOCTORS FROM THE SURGERYS, INFECTIOUS DISEASE DOCTORS AND PRIMARY DOCTORS DEPENDING ON WHAT DAY I WAS CHECKED OUT AND WHO DECIDED TO COME IN THAT DAY TO WRITE IT... ANY ADVICE???

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Have you tried talking to your primary care doctor to see if they can recommend a place for pain management?

The issue isn't really having had the medications prescribed by various doctors, that happens to everyone now and then. The issue is how frequently it's happened, though if it's all been due to surgeries, then it shouldn't have been that frequent and shouldn't be a problem.

Have you actually had a pain management doctor say that you've had them prescribed by too many different doctors, or is this just what you're theorizing will happen?


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From my perspective, I think this would be an ideal time to take control of your life and look into other alternative pain medicine. The pharmaceutical industry can care less about people in pain. To them it IS only about money and not about the health of the patient. They manufacture pills to cover up your pain instead of dealing with the underlying cause of your pain; just to keep you coming back for more medication.

The best advice I can offer you is to consider alternative forms of medicine. This can be in the form of Acupuncture, Meditative healing through positive thought, Essential Oils, Herbs, etc...I think if any of these options are pursued with an intent of getting healed, you will find that these work wonders for more than just the pain you are dealing with now.

I hope this helps!

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David, I think that you may have had a positive result from some of the things that you mentioned, but I've tried acupuncture multiple times, as well as spinal injections under x-ray, and none of them had any positive effect on my chronic pain. Some people, like myself, do in fact have chronic pain issues that aren't going to be solved or even mitigated by alternative therapies or even invasive surgeries. For people in my position, there is no other way to get any relief than through narcotic pain relief. It's NOT a best-case scenario, but it works (barely) and allows me to live and actually work a job. For the doctors that are so dead-set against opiate usage, I hope that they have the experience of being on the other end of a relationship where their physician basically tells them "You have to suffer". THAT is not taking care of your patients. It truly is a quality of life issue. Would you rather be dependent on opiates, or would you choose to live every day of your life in constant agony? For those of us who only have those 2 choices to live with, the answer is obvious. Stating that the patient will get addicted is the same as saying that diabetics are addicted to insulin. What's the difference? Anyone who is forced to take medication on a daily basis could be classified as addicted. For all of the high and mighty so-called doctors who put their own OPINIONS over and above the suffering of their patients, I hope they live to experience the other end of that experience.

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Hi Bill,

I really appreciate you taking the time to reply,

I can certainly understand more of where your coming from now, and I couldn't agree more that the opinions of many MD's (who base all their knowledge from a textbook and not from experience) don't address what's really important (i.e. the patient's opinion and how they feel, since they are the one's being treated). If they didn't learn it in school, then it doesn't seem to matter to them. I don't think all medical doctors are this way, but certainly the majority you come across in a hospital setting have a stigma against using alternative means of healing OR in this case using opiates in their natural form to help with pain relief in those who really do need it.

Many doctors have a tendency to not prescribe certain pills because of the whole belief going around that everyone is abusing them. This is obviously not the case here and in countless other situations...and I think if this the only thing that works for your pain relief, you may have to just focus on changing doctors and/or ordering your prescription through a legitimate online pharmacy.

Regarding -locating a new pain management doctor, listed below are a couple websites specific to locating pain management doctors in a given area. All you have to do is input your city or zip code for narrowed results:
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You can give this other site a try too if you come up with different results for some reason or another:
wellness.com/find/pain%20management%20specialist

Most of the results you will find also list a phone number for that specific doctor; I'd consider calling up a number of them to see if they prescribe the type of medication you are seeking to manage your pain. And if so, ask if they are accepting new patients.

For some form of pain relief in the meantime, I am convinced through many articles and some personal use that consistent use of Oil of Oregano is as powerful a pain killer as Morphine (but without the side effects). I'm thinking that if you have a period of time where you don't have any access to pain medication, that this "may help" you get through a transitional period - while at the same time, providing your body with a host of other beneficial effects. It's really just something to consider trying if you can afford to do so, since it is relatively inexpensive (at $20-40) compared to the cost of other prescriptions.

I really wish I could be of more help, but in the meantime try to keep your thoughts moving forward on obtaining the medication that is right for your pain. The more you think it and believe that you are going to receive it soon, the easier it will be to obtain it. Hopefully others will offer their two-cents, but I hope this helps!

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i HAVE READ EVERYONE'S ANSWERS AND FEEL THAT FOR THE FIRST TIME IN A long long TIME PEOPLE UNDERSTAND WHERE I AM COMING FROM. pILLS FOR SOME REASON HAVE MADE ME ABLE TO NOT FEEL THE AWFUL PAIN OR THE TERRIBLE DEPRESSION TO NOT EVEN WANT TO GET OUT OF BED AND TO opps... and to get a job, enjoy it, enjoy time with my family, be able to function and really take the time to spend QUALITY time with my daughter who is three... NO MOST doctors don't understand that without the use of something to releive the pain I don't want or care to even get up each morning... now i can... though you need more and more eventually and then it gets to the point where you are just taking them to NOT BE SICK... I'm at the middle ground right now... I'm at the point where I take it a couple times a day, as little as possible and feel NORMAL AND LIKE A PRODUCTIVE MEMBER OF SOCIETY... where-as before I got so bad that I wouldn't work, id sit home and self destruct all day by drinking or doing anything i could just to get outside myself... and I really don't want that to happen again. It is SOOOO hard to find a middle ground with opiate use... Whoever said that they wished the doctors would wake up one day (basically) and feel that they just can't function right say with their practice because of the decission of one person's beliefs were actually right on... they aren't us and they wilol never know how we feel... but I don't want this to get out of hand... it's almost like if i could freeze time and just go on like this forever not getting any worse and just enjoying each day with the minimal amount of pain LEGally LIFE WOULD BE JUST PERFECT... but we all know that's not usually possible either... I went to a pain doctor and was told thatI see too many doctors... but they were all hospital surgrey's... but I did have an experience for two andf a half weeks off EVERYTHING... including tylonol pm... I threw up, s--- myself... had a fever, couldn't even look at my daughter, let alone care for her, was so depressed i didn't leave the house, i was so sick and so lost... it almost felt as if I had a mental disorder and didn't know how to deal with or function in the real world... and I promised GOD that if I could get on a small dose... i would show everybody and get a job and enjoy life to the fullest and take care of ALL MY RRESPONSIBILITIES... and I HAVE!!!! But it's been a while what happens net ??? what if I can't get them legally and I run out... or I have to go back to using my whole paycheck each week to just support y habit of BEING AND FEELING NORMAL??? I know ive babbled on... just spilled it from the heart hope someone understands my dilemia...

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Being 'just a dentist', I know that I don't deal with chronic pain, but I'd still warn everyone here not to get pissed at doctors just for not handing out scripts like they were business cards. There's a reason they're called 'controlled substances'.
Every time I'm faced with a patient who seems to not have any reason for the pain they're describing, I try to err on the side of caution and give them something for it, but again, as a dentist most of the time pain is caused by infection and thus best treated by an antibiotic.
Finally, the thing that made me want to post here is that the "Jessica" says she had a script for NINETY 30 MG (sic)ROXYCOTINS", aka: Roxicodone. That is pure oxycodone, the strongest dose of the strongest narcotic next to heroin and morphine. Ninety pills, taking them six times a day is good for 15 days which is more than enough to recover from the procedures Jessica described.
Even with my limited medical training (I don't consider it limited, but most do being that I'm 'only' a dentist), the pain from a staff infection would be gone after those 15 days, so unless Jessica has a chronic pain problem she hasn't mentioned, I just don't see the problem. Especially not one requiring quite so much capitalization.

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